drysine

I wonder where is traditional "deliberately targeting the civilian population"?

Oh, right, it's when Ukrainian civilians die.

When Russian civilians die, BBC only quotes multiple justifications from Zelensky and some Ukrainian official:

"The primary rationale for striking Wildberries' warehouses is to disrupt Russian logistics and the supply of dual-use goods, critical electronics, sanctioned goods and the like to the Russian army and Russian arms manufacturers," he said.

"The collateral damage from such strikes could also have a serious impact on the Russian economy, as well as a psychological effect on Russian society and, likely, on continued support for the war."

"a psychological effect on Russian society and, likely, on continued support for the war" - isn't it a definition of terrorism? Chechen terrorists once captured a maternity ward with the same goal.

Seems dangerous in case the line breaks or short-circuits.

Great, you've managed to dig up a negative review

Google shows it at the top of first page and it's a review chosen and published by National Space Society, not just some rando's opinion.

Your reviews are on Amazon from ordinary people that after 5 years of relentless russophobic propaganda in the West are eager to consume more. Of course they like a book that mocks long dead people that beat the US in the early space race despite the USSR being in ruins after WW2 and loss of 26 million people.

One review among "Top reviews" even prizes it specifically for being entertaining and hilarious. Right, let's mock Soviets for their poor electronics instead of being in awe of what they have achieved with what they had.

Compare that, for example, with a book by David Scott and Alexey Leonov[0] telling parallel stories of Moon programs that has better rating and almost no 3-star reviews. If you read "Top reviews", they are all excellent.

[0] https://www.amazon.com.au/Sides-Moon-David-Randolph-Scott/dp...

Never heard of it before. Who exactly calls it "one of the best" besides you?

Here is a review from the National Space Society:

"As the title suggests, the book is extremely negative in tone and hostile to the entire Soviet space effort, from top to bottom. The book portrays the Soviets as bumblers and fools, veering from catastrophe to disaster. Soviet space successes (including the first manned spaceflight, the first flight of a female Cosmonaut, and other missions) are treated as lucky breaks or close calls, and nothing more. While some may find this fun or amusing, it has little basis in reality. The Soviet space program was a monumental undertaking that, like the U.S. space program, demanded the service of the nation’s top engineers, manufacturers, pilots, etc. Many books, including Colin Burgess’s outstanding Soviets in Space, James Harford’s Korolev, William Burrough’s This New Ocean, and other works all portray the Soviet effort in a much more realistic manner and demonstrate what a massive and serious effort it was. Even Bryan Burrough’s Dragonfly, which is highly critical of the Russians and details more than a few life-threatening misadventures aboard the Mir Space Station, does not portray the Russians as clods the way that Strausbaugh does. ...

The problem is that one could just as easily write a similar book, with a similar tone, about the U.S. space program. The loss of the Mercury capsule during Gus Grissom’s Liberty Bell 7 flight, the Apollo 1 fire that claimed the lives of three U.S. astronauts, Gene Cernan and Dick Gordon’s deeply troubled spacewalks on Gemini 9A and Gemini 11, respectively, as well as the Challenger and Columbia disasters could be described in the same manner and it would be just as unfair and disingenuous."

[0] https://nss.org/book-review-the-wrong-stuff/

What's the voltage of power lines to datacenters?

This is akin to giving someone a textbook

Except LLM isn't a textbook, people know that but believe it nonetheless.

Another complete lie, constantly perpetuated by Z-patriot zombies. And if you actually read the source you linked to, you would see that most of the antagonists of the clashes on this day were russians.

You are not making sense. The article debunks what you are saying:

"Rumors and conspiracy theories

Nationality of the victims

... Later reports showed that none of the identified victims was from Russia or Transnistria. Out of the 48 people killed, 46 were from Odesa or Odesa region, one from Mykolaiv Oblast and one from Vinnytsia."[0]

Here, I have something for you.

The thing is that you are receiving medals from the Kiev regime for staying far from the front line and Ukrainian men are forcibly taken to the front line to die.

Among my Ukrainian acquaintances and their acquaintances two were grabbed on the street, one of them was dead in a month and another one was taken just recently.

People like you who support Kiev regime and its Western puppeteers are the reason that man is dead.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes#Nationality...

the Ukrainian city of Odesa

It's Odessa, the city founded by the Russian Empress Catherine the Great in 1794 on the land taken by the Russian Army from the Ottoman Empire.[0]

The only thing Odessa is known for under the Ukrainian rule is burning 42 pro-Russian Ukrainian citizens[1] by Ukrainian nationalists. After that a Ukrainian president, billionaire Poroshenko, praised the city for being truly banderite[2] city. Yes, that is considered a praise by the Kiev regime.

"The European Court of Human Rights Court held, unanimously, that there had been: violations of Article 2 (right to life/investigation) of the European Convention on Human Rights, on account of the relevant authorities’ failure to do everything that could reasonably be expected of them to prevent the violence in Odesa on 2 May 2014, to stop that violence after its outbreak, to ensure timely rescue measures for people trapped in the fire, and to institute and conduct an effective investigation into the events" [3]

Because Odesa is Ukraine forever.

It's not for a Polish expat to decide. The Kiev regime is not hunting you when you walk the streets of Odessa.[4] They won't grab you and send to the frontline. When men are desperately calling bystanders for help, you walk by, look away and keep supporting the regime that does that.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Jassy

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes#Casualties

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banderite

[3] https://hudoc.echr.coe.int/app/conversion/pdf/?library=ECHR&...

[4] https://busification.org/en/city/odesa

I see that you don't like my comment.

I'm sure you'll find an excuse for Ukrainian nationalists in each case I linked to - that's fine, it fits your beliefs about current Ukrainian regime.

But then will you be able to find any case where Ukrainian civilians died that couldn't be excused in exactly the same way?

Can you be consistent in your judgement?

You are misinformed.

Here is one of the top Ukrainian propagandists posting in his personal channel a video from Belgorod (Russia) that shows wounded Russian women screaming and thrashing in agony (the text reads "Happy New Year, bitches") after Ukrainian MLRS strike at the city: https://t.me/dmytrogordon_official/39688

Here is the Ukraine targeting the same high-rise apartment building in Kazan with multiple drones: https://t.me/readovkanews/91042

Here is the Ukraine blowing a bridge in Russia exactly when a passenger train was passing under it leading to deaths of civilians including children: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/01/deaths-as-russ...

Here is Ukrainian regime striking a college with multiple drones and killing 21 students: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Starobilsk_strike#Casualt...

The more and more would demand quite the opposite from Kremlin - to escalate already.

Germans killed millions of Polish citizens - but they are good people now, not like Ukrainians

Germans condemn what they did, the Ukrainians are making Pantheon[0][1] of their war criminals who committed genocide[2].

[0] https://kyivindependent.com/pantheon-of-ukrainian-heroes-to-...

[1] https://tvpworld.com/94337029/polands-divided-right-puts-ukr...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia...

fighting evil in this world is highly commendable

So that would mean fighting against Ukrainian regime.

Watch the thousands of videos where men are grabbed on the streets of Ukrainian cities to be thrown into meatgrinder after two weeks of training[0]. Hearing the terror and desperation in their screams "People, help me, I want to live" is heartbreaking.

[0] https://busification.org/en

They are reputable (with corroboration)

Sounds like "a bit pregnant"

of protecting the Starlink satellites

Like shooting down all Russian satellites in retaliation? The US can produce and launch new satellites much faster than Russia.

That's quite telling that you don't consider GUR (Ukrainian Main Directorate of Intelligence) a reputable source))

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Directorate_of_Intelligen...

And I know only two Ursulas, the other one wrote about wizards.

And for that reason the EU, India, China and Russia will build their own Starlink alternatives.

I don't know about the rest, but Russia started working on its own Starlink well before the war. We have the North and Siberia where satellite internet is the only option. Another target market is Russian Railways which would love to have internet in the trains not only when they pass areas with mobile coverage.

the huge upside for Starlink outside of Africa or India

Which together have four times more people than the EU. Needs of the many outweigh, you know

So does Ursula

Can the Kremlin just join us in the 21st century already?

You mean like bombing a school and murdering 120 children like the US did in Iran? [0]

Or like striking a college with multiple drones and killing 21 students like the Ukrainian regime did in the Eastern Ukraine? [1]

Thank you very much, but no. We, Russians, would rather stay who we are and not join you.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Minab_school_attack#Death...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Starobilsk_strike#Casualt...

Yep, we agree much more than disagree. Let the worms stay in that can)

Only the repression is not yet so harsh (arguably).

Is it?

France: "Article 431-9-1, now stipulates a sentence of one year's imprisonment and a fine of €15,000 for voluntarily concealing all or part of the face "without legitimate reason" whilst attending a demonstration "during or at the end of which disturbances to public order are committed or are likely to be committed."" [0]

Meanwhile in Canada: "Bill C-309 became law, banning the wearing of masks during a riot or unlawful assembly, carrying a maximum ten-year prison sentence with a conviction of the offence." [1]

But I don't understand, right, it's different, Georgian masked rioters are pro-democracy freedom fighters, and protesters in the West are forces of darkness.

[0] https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2023/05/12/i...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preventing_Persons_from_Concea...

that Russia treated Estonia like an imperial colony

You mean extracting resources, not developing local industry, especially heavy industry, and forcing to buy all the staff from metropolis?

I don't think its fair to paint all who fled into the forests in such broad strokes

That's what Estonians nationalists tell.

"The findings of this article have implications for understanding Baltic and European collective memory. The studied memoirs consistently share the same themes: the Baltic states were purely victims of the Soviets and Nazis; Soviet occupation was worse than Nazi occupation for the titular ethnicities; the Baltic Waffen-SS legions did not commit atrocities; and the Holocaust was solely a German crime. As scholars have argued (Katz Citation2016, Citation2017; Mälksoo Citation2014; Radonić Citation2018; Subotić Citation2019), these rhetorical strategies represent an adaptation to, rather than an acceptance of, the Western narrative of the Holocaust in Estonia and Latvia. This is evident in the omission of Jewish Bolshevism as a threat to Europe and the distancing of Estonians and Latvians from involvement in genocide, which produces a clear-cut story of patriotic defense against the genocidal Soviet Union. The adaptation has had an effect on the wider European narrative, as increasingly more European politicians and commentators buy into the argument that communism was equal to fascism. In striving to emphasize the European credentials of the Baltic states, without accepting any responsibility for assisting – knowingly or unknowingly – in the genocidal Nazi project, Estonian and Latvian Legion veterans have produced a revisionist version of World War II history. In their narrative, which mimics wartime Nazi propaganda, collaboration with Nazi Germany demonstrated their essential Europeanness in the face of Asian Bolshevism. While they may lack some of the political correctness of official discourse, their arguments, with the exception of one author, correspond to the hegemonic narrative in the Baltic states today." [0]

[0] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/01629778.2023.2...

I wouldn't call a deception "lifehack".

But anyway, what makes Chichikov's "lifehack" "a result of having to work around the government that is seen more as an occupying force rather than the will of the people"?

I don't think anyone would disagree there weren't people who committed terrible crimes

Please help me parse your triple negatives.

You think everyone would agree there weren't people who committed terrible crimes?

who refused to assimilate into the independent country

"Cultural genocide may also involve forced assimilation, as well as the suppression of a language or cultural activities that do not conform to the destroyer's notion of what is appropriate" [0]

are the ones holding most of the blame here

Blaming the victim. Classic.

Estonia is an exemplar in upholding human rights since regaining independence.

You must be kidding. Or you just don't count Russians as human.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_genocide

I wonder if the story of "alien" passports[0] and creeping ethnic cleansing[1] in the independent Estonia will make into the game.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estonian_alien's_passport

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Estonia#Ethnic...

And Estonian patriots enthusiastically helped[0] German Nazis make Estonia the first judenfrei (free of Jews) country if you don't count Luxembourg.[1]

These patriots had to flee to the forests when the time came to answer for their part in Holocaust and other crimes.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_Estonia#Eston...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judenfrei