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I would call people out for excusing leading people on and lying to their faces. In public. In a room full of people that disagree with me. If I am in the wrong and downvotes (or in our analogy looks of disapproval or murmurs of hatred in my direction) are my punishment I will take them proudly. I think excusing the behavior is nearly as shameful as being the person doing the lying and deceiving.

I can't believe I'm explaining this in such deal. I meant the usage quite literally. I'm shocked that an intelligent community such as HN is excusing the behavior because it's supposedly "normal". I think the treatment and thus the excuses are "shitty" which doesn't have a formal definition for me to rattle off, but suffice it to say I think it covers "unacceptable behavior" which is a category that lying and leading people on generally falls into.

I got 3 invitations in the first week. I use Google Voice exclusively for all my calls and a decently high volume of my text messages. My invited users use the service heavily and I've been responsible for getting my brother and both my parents using Google Voice, yet I've never been given additional invites.

:(

Uh, Chromium's open source, it could ask for FTP credentials and then upload them there...? There are any number of ways this could be done without giving any information to Google and only giving them to Chromium.

Am I missing something?

You're welcome to suggest it, but it's really not the case. If someone did that to me I would be upset. I'm sorry that I have the common decency not to lie to people's faces, deceive them, string them on and then expect them to take it with a smile on their face. I'm working for the man now anyway. Not much to be upset about really.

Laziness? Plus I like the fact that it's integrated into the browser itself. That might be irrational though, not sure how well integrated plugins can be in core browser stuff.

Oh I know, I'm just paranoid and have (yes, even me, the Google fanboy) my limits on what I'm willing to store on others' servers.

I know, I can use xmarks or del.icio.us or whomever, but having bookmarks/extensions or (at least eventually) all of my browser state synced in a single place... that's just unbeatable IMO. Especially because I have a desktop, laptop and work laptop that are used about equally. It's a nightmare to remember, "Oh where did I bookmark that page at?" etc. Not to mention extensions, cookies, etc, etc.

Uh, at least among male internet users I am a small minority. I wouldn't worry about my collection, heh. Besides, they're still there and finding is half the fun.

There's an even easier solution... require confirmation via email. You send the post as an email, you get an email back immediately asking for post confirmation.

edit:

It looks like this is already standard functionality (if turned on, and even if not there is still an email sent with a delete link).

I don't think dustin does a good job explaining why "It is OK" in this blog post, but I think I agree with his conclusion, this doesn't seem like a big deal if a user has opted for the more optimistic workflow rather than the more precautionary one.

I would love to do this without sharing my extension data and bookmarks with Google. They already know what I search for. I don't really want them to know my favorite porn or cooking websites.

How difficult would it be to add a different provider for Chromium sync, or make a small server component that would allow anyone to decentralized-ly be their own provider of a sync repo for their browsers?

No, I've lost interest in bothering, I'm pretty much just mocking it now.

My comment just above and the comment comparing reddit to HN, I fully expected to get downmodded. The other comments were simply chastising HN's mockery of the guy that actually believed what the Apple engineer said and IMO do not deserve to be downmodded.

You get AOL to add support for apple's push server into their Oscar protocol chain and I'll concede.

My battery lasts fine and I'm generally logged into IRC and/or meebo for most of the day in addition to the Google Talk that I leave signed in and my three email accounts that get updates. etc, etc. The battery woes are simply unjustified for the most part.

"Chip designers are under so much pressure to deliver ever-faster CPUs that they’ll risk changing the meaning of your program, and possibly break it, in order to make it run faster"

Uh huh. Let me know when that happens.

No it's not. Point out what was so "acerbic" in my original reply. I've read it twice now and there's nothing out of line in it.

The only emotion I injected was "I am startled". Yeah, really `acid in temper or mood`. Especially when * ironically* I was addressing the acerbic comments being pointed at the author for ACTUALLY BELIEVING people when they told him they were interested.

Is it opposite day on HN or did I miss a memo?

Write an IM app for the iPhone 4.

You're wrong. These are the same excuses that people always make for apple, that simplicity and functionality are mutually exclusive. This excuse seems to usually be made ONLY for Apple. Why can't they have their easy to use APIs but ALSO have the ability for real developers who want to write "that same for loop over and over", or who, you know, what to write something like an Instant Messaging application do so?

Which is why I said excuses being made up and down the thread. I didn't mean to imply that you were excusing it, but many people were saying that Apple was being more reasonable that the developer which is why I spoke out in defense of the developer.

I don't buy your explanation. I'd like to, but all over this thread there are highly upvoted comments that explain that this guy was out of lining by expecting anything at all, even though Apple continually led him on. They could have sent two teeny-tiny bytes 'N' 'o' and been done. But instead they were dicks.

I don't really see why my reply was unfair. If you weren't making excuses for apple, fine, but there were dozens of posters on this topic that are/were.

Most pathetic downmodding I've seen on HN. This isn't even passive aggressive, this is just being a shitty human being. Fuck you all.

It's really cool that HN is going the reddit route of downmodding comments that they disagree with. Although I don't even think my comments would have been downmodded over there. Because we're all hip and "hackers" at HN we just tolerate and expect people to be shitty to each other in the business world. Real cool guys.

If a woman said she's interested in you, never calls back, and says SHE will call YOU, you wouldn't have hope and stay interested?

I don't understand why this thread seems to be going out of their way to shit on this guy. It's not like Apple said "eh" and didn't respond, they kept saying they'd get back to him and never bothered.

It's called leading someone on, it's rude, and I'm startled at the number of excuses that are being made for this guy.

I can't believe the amount of misinformation about Android in general. I know this is a phone and not Android specifically, but in general, WTF?

PCMag is reporting the Droid X and Droid 2 are the same phone, Engadget was making the same mistake less than a week ago. Now MacRumors really believes that it's even possible to have a 720p density screen on that size of a phone, even when the same mistakes were made regarding other phones that called the screen by the camera resolution.

It's just pathetic. These are high profile sites that consistently get information wrong that has been known to ANYONE paying ANY attention for at least a month.

Parent said "Apple banning Google's Admob is like..." and then you said "It's marketing".

I don't buy it. It's a nice idea (well, not really) but I don't believe for a second that Apple is doing it for the publicity rather than the raw ad market share.