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Main take-away: Tesla confirmed it is no longer just a car company.

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This. The right way to do it is to offer ALL employees the same time off/benefits.

"I'm thankful for all those people with kids who will (a) take care of the continuation of the human race"

lol gtfo

Not if it's algorithmic. The issue is that you have a committee making arbitrary decisions.

It's a bad look on the SP500 if Tesla continues its rise and shareholders of the SP misses out on gains because of this "committee decision".

This looks bad on the SP500 IMO

haha

It's over. There will also be no appetite for another lockdown.

More like going bankrupt

lol wtf

People believe the company will be worth more in the future.

Yeah, I suppose that is true of some buildings here as well. It really depends on the occupants of the building, and whether it is mainly owner occupied or mostly renters.

So I can see your point.

Yeah, now they will shut down.

In apartments, there is a mutual understanding of common elements and that people are living in a shared space. There is also a mediation process through the building management and the board.

In the burbs, is is a wild west with no mediation/arbitration process. There is a huge sense of entitlement on both sides - "this is my property and I can do what I want" vs. "you are encroaching on my property/rights and I will complain/behave passive aggressively about everything".

Everything you mentioned are issues in suburbs as well - often more so:

- Neighbors dog in the backyard barking all damn day.

- Neighbor throwing BBQ/party in the yard w/ music, and loud laughing/talking late into the night.

- Kids yelling/laughing/screaming.

- Teenagers revving cars up and down the streets

- Lawnmower at 6 in the morning

Trust me, I've lived in both. Apartments have a process to handle unacceptable behavior and disputes. Suburbs are way worse - if you are looking for more private space, you need to go rural where houses sit on large lots.

yeah but you're still sitting in isolation for 8 hrs a day

lol, I think it might have more to do with the fact that humans are inherently social creatures.

This.

I wish there was a way I could make a bet that 100% remote will NOT become the norm. Given how contrarian this opinion seems to be, surely there must be some way to profit if I am right?

You can already do that. It's called trains and buses, lol.

Sitting in an enclosed space for 3 hours is still sitting in an enclosed space for 3 hours.

I live in Toronto and we are already in stage 3 of reopening. Restaurants have allowed indoor dining and gyms have started to reopen. Movie theatres are also open.

Streets are bustling and patios are pretty full again.

I think this whole thing is overblown and we will return to normal sooner than people think.

This isn't true at all. These tech companies opened offices in cities because thats where young talent wanted to/was living.

Exactly. Companies came to cities because thats where talent wanted to live. Not the other way around.

Yeah, I was in that mode for a while.

This is really underrated aspect - used to have to drive everywhere, even to the corner store. Being able to walk, or bike everywhere is awesome.

As someone who has lived in the burbs most of my life, this stuff is way more of a problem in suburbs. So escape it you either need to buy a huge lot, or go somewhere really rural.

Remains to be seen. 3 hours out of the city is still 3 hours out of the city regardless of whether you can "take a nap" or not - which you already can on something called a train or bus.

You realize everything you listed here has been this way since like.. forever right? And nothing has changed.

I live in Toronto where new cases have pretty much dropped off. Things are more or less back to normal - we just allowed indoor dining at restaurants, the streets are starting to come back to life, patios are bustling, etc.

There is light at the end of the tunnel :)

The only major difference is that offices are still empty - this actually turned out to be a good thing though - less traffic, biking and walking around is really nice.

Offices/companies came to cities because thats where young people wanted to live, not the other way around.

No because I can look ahead more than 6 months...