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the Bun team lacks knowledge to actually make it more idiomatic: none of the Bun team has written any Rust

Do you know how silly this sounds? Good engineers can work in any language. At the top companies (of which Anthropic is certainly one) they don’t have “C++ engineers” and “rust engineers” they just have engineers.

Sorry you think they’re not going to continue developing and improving bun and making it more idiomatic?

Given the success of the port so far and the fact that CC is now running on rust Bun, that seems highly unlikely to me.

historically we didn’t have LLMs which don’t mind “unpleasant[ness]” and “heavy rework”.

This is I think a preview of the future of software development. LLMs are having the same effect as compilers, frameworks, etc - they are making new kinds of software development feasible which were not previously so.

Seems to be working just fine though?

And like, this is just the beginning of the port. They did a mechanical port basically line by line, next step is to make it idiomatic rust.

I thought by now people would’ve learned to stop betting against this rewrite.

Unlike every other country on the planet which use their leverage to benefit all nations equally.

The AI can absolutely refuse, what are you talking about?

These things can and do say “sorry I won’t help you with that” based on the nature of your request. What do you call that if not a refusal?

I think I am using it right. The implication of the whole post is that Jared's technical points about Zig vs Rust aren't valid because he's a bad programmer. The alternative interpretation is that calling Jared a bad programmer is a non-sequitur unrelated to the argument and is included purely out of spite.

Take your pick I guess, but the way I meant it I was indeed using the term correctly.

Jared’s post was entirely technical, this post was mostly personal.

It’s just one long ad hominem

I use it all day every day and haven’t noticed any bugs.

And the fact is that they are maintaining it and it is one of the most successful software products of all time and is earning them mountains of cash. By any metric it is a successful product. So obviously whatever they are doing is working.

There’s no way in hell it’s maintainable

This is not an assertion you are qualified to make

Go read any analysis of the Claude Code leak for proof

You seem to be implying that Claude code is unmaintainable. Yet they appear to be maintaining it just fine. Did I misunderstand your implication?

I strongly suspect my critical thinking skills are better than yours.

For example, note my use of the phrase “turned out” and then consider whether your main point about the release date of plus 4.8 vs the paper makes any sense at all?

how do you know what is novel?

Because I work on novel ASICs that were created by my company and have never been used or seen outside of my company?

My criticism centers on the part of the paper they chose for their title, the “stochastic parrot” metaphor. And my criticism is that if you observe Claude code with opus 4.8 working through an entirely novel problem that nobody has ever worked on before and which certainly wasn’t in its training data, the choice to even metaphorically call them stochastic parrots turned out to be egregiously wrong.

And secondarily, and maybe only partially the authors’ fault, is the enormous tidal wave of morons that this paper minted who plague us with their misunderstandings to this day.

What a no-content, useless (and sponsored) post. I am tired of the “AI isn’t changing anything” theater when my job went from manually writing code to Claude writing 100% of my code in less than a year.

I use it as shorthand for “this is received wisdom that you likely haven’t thought about critically and are just saying because it tends to please the reddit hive mind”.

Which is something I did indeed want to say in addition to my actual point.

But I also take your point that it is aggressive, is not related to the substance of the discussion, and is reasonable to not want to see on HN. Will avoid in the future :)

What do you mean exactly? You have a nix workstation and a physically separate PVE server, and configure the second from the first?

This seems very cool and I will probably try it, but I think I’m missing something. I run Proxmox so that I can have multiple VMs running on my NUC. This doesn’t really solve that right? I cant spin up a windows 11 vm one weekend for a random experiment.

So they should get paid lots of money to never do anything risky?

Sometimes things don’t work out. That doesn’t mean it was a punishable offense to try.

“Consequences for mistakes” is generally not a good way of operating. Kind of the whole idea behind a blameless retro for example.

Your sauce is not worth stealing to OpenAI. They have bigger fish to fry

In fact - had there ever been a single case in the history of the internet where a service provider of any kind - hosting, storage, email, search, anything - has ever stolen intellectual property or trade secrets from a user and benefitted from it? Has that literally ever happened?

I promise OpenAI is not going to steal your “secret sauce”

the dumb zone, where attention drops off and the model starts forgetting what you told it five minutes ago

I use opus 1m context all day every day at work and I simply have never encountered this. I don’t even think about context windows anymore I just let it do what it wants re compaction. Hard for me to understand where this article is coming from.

They think they can do whatever they want. And thus far, they have been right about that.

almost everything was assembled from downloaded free assets and libraries.

As opposed to when humans get into game dev and roll everything themselves from scratch?

anti-AI

mobile support to come

Cmon lol. Give opus 20min and it will give you a mobile site throw in a better-looking desktop site for fun.

they are just looking for easy targets

I mean, they are. They’re not harassing Linus or linux maintainers because that would get shut down quickly. Instead they brigade the rsync GitHub issues.

You declare the critics as witches

Did you read a single thing I wrote?

So everyone is paying cloudflare… why?

the anger that's showing up around ai isn't a matter of the masses being misinformed

Isn't it though? let me quote my other comments in this thread:

There is undoubtedly AI-written code in the Linux kernel now, but are they out there harassing those maintainers? No. rsync GitHub is easier to brigade.

They’re also all completely disingenuous (“I’ll have to stop using rsync now”) given that 99.99% of software now includes AI-written code

This is why I call it a moral panic and hysteria. It's not reasoned, considered opposition to AI. The people on that github thread are totally disconnected from reality - it doesn't matter to them whether the accusations are true, it matters that the accusations have been made, and against an easy target that they don't expect fight-back from.

If they really just had a considered moral opposition to AI-generated code, they would be out there harassing Linus Torvalds himself. Are they? No. Because it's just a moral panic.

This anti-AI hysteria is just such a classic moral panic. It’s just

1) identify something as AI-produced

2) attack and ostracize anyone who might be involved in that production

And as with all moral panics, whether (1) is factual is totally beside the point. The point is the almost sexual release you get from (2).

I know in this case there is AI-produced code in rsync (as there is with most useful software by now), but you see the witch-hunts every day online and as with all witch-hunts it really doesn’t matter whether the accusation is true. The hysteria is the point.

They’re just picking easy targets to bully. There is undoubtedly AI-written code in the Linux kernel now, but are they out there harassing those maintainers? No. rsync GitHub is easier to brigade.