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Yes, which you’ll find if you do Safari adheres to quite well

They don' t

Apple refused to implement 16 web API in Safari

Which is why we have media queries and poly fills because it’s simply impossible to have a unified platform

And that' s why big players like Apple hat control a closed ecosystem shouldn't be allowed to be assholes

At least on Android I can install other browsers and other browser engines

Do you see the difference?

Chrome doesn’t render the same on linux as it doesn’t on windows

that' s not true

Windows and Linux that have simply different font rendering engines and different native widgets

That's all

would you call this not adhering to the standard?

absolutely NOT!

In no part of the standard rendering is formalized

It wouldn't make sense

The way things are rendered is standardized, not the way they should look

https://www.w3.org/TR/2014/REC-html5-20141028/rendering.html

HTML is intended to apply to multiple media (it is a media-independent language). User agent implementors are encouraged to adapt the suggestions in this section to their target media.

Yes and No.

Nero had a very "peculiar" sexual life, but was also, of course, very powerful, which made him an enemy of the Senate that was very conservative about the image of Roman as soldiers.

So it is possible that the stories were true and they used them to dethrone him and later on the propaganda depicted him as a monster.

There were rumors in history, today believed untrue, that he killed his wife Poppea kicking her in the belly, also killing the baby she was caring.

There are rumors of him killing his mother Agrippina (we don't know if it's true or not).

The story says that Nero after losing the wife married his lover Statilia Messalina, but she was too different from Poppea so he started a search throughout the Empire for a woman looking exactly like his dead wife.

He also decided that the sex of the person wasn't important, so when they found Sporo, Nero castrated him and married him in Greece. Story says Sporo was dressed as an empress, but probably he never wanted that life and the castration was forced upon him.

The marriage with Sporo came after the one with Pitagora, when Nero played the role of the wife.

If all of this is propaganda, Svetonio had a great imagination, or, maybe, as the historians think today, most of it is the truth, romanticized, but mostly true.

Pure io e ha un po' rotto le palle che davanti agli americani che si sparano per cazzate noi continuiamo a fare la parte della scimmietta simpatica che strilla per le strade

Sono molto peggio di noi

As Italian, with a grandfather imprisoned by the fascists and the other sent by the fascist regime to die in Russia, I can tell you what fascism is and what is not and I can tell you we never thought it meant "government that hurts people" like nazism is not just "people who wear swastikas", if you use it that way, you are wrong.

My grandmother died few moths ago, she was from 1922 and escaped from the fascists on one side and the Marocchinate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marocchinate) on the other side, while my grandfather was in jail even if he was ill with tuberculosis, my father house was occupied by fascists and he had to hide from the day he was born until he was five, and when the war ended his father never came back.

I think it's not long past when people that suffered from it are still alive, don't you think?

You're oversimplifying something that's been very hurtful for my country, the history of my continent and for my family.

But let me make a simple example for you: fascism was about separating people in classes, USSR was about eliminating classes.

Fascism was about colonialism and they did unspeakable things in North Africa, justifying their actions with he excuse that "black people are not humans, they are like animals"

USSR never did something similar, because of people's race.

Fascism was about individualism, USSR was about colletivism.

Etc. etc. etc.

Just to exemplify for you what fascism is and what is not: US is more fascist than USSR could ever have been.

And not because I like USSR, but because words have meanings and it's not for you to decide what fascism means when we are the ones who faced it, in our houses, fought it, defeated it, and rebuilt from the ruins and the trail of dead fascism left.

BL matters, Italian lives matters too.

the Soviet Union was arguably fascist

No, it wasn't.

Fascism is not simply "what you don't like"

If USSR was arguably fascist, so are the USA then.

Do you think bombing other countries for their oil or to seize control of countries close to the enemy borders (like in Vietnam) looks more democratic or fascist?

USSR has been at war in Afghanistan for 9 years, mainly because USA financed the resistance, creating and arming those mujahideen that years later became "terrorists" simply because they weren't needed anymore...

USA has been at war in Afghanistan for 19 years now (and counting) and the evidence to go to war were falsified.

Fascism is a specific thing, if we broaden the meaning of that word, anything can be called fascist.

I think that "it's not the original since 1550" it's an overstatement

The copy was made at roughly the same time of the original, so it is a great reference for how it should look, but the techniques used for the original Last supper are so different that they are very different in terms of its importance and the difficulties to preserve it and the fact that Leonardo made it explain why the original suffered more damages throughout history (it was simply more famous)

Like the Amphitheatre of El Jem, that was used to film The Galdiator, and the original Colosseum.

We're lucky we have an almost exact copy to look at, that's for sure.

The fact that you didn't doesn't prove you shouldn't

I'm not from US. I don't know the technicalities, in Italy for example you should declare who's residing in your house, even if it's a no paying guest

Many don't, but it's still a requirement

BTW the point was anonymity is not about being anti social, it's about hiding your true identity

If you stay home and never talk to anybody you're being secretive, but probably are not anonymous (police can still come and knock at your door because neighbors called then since you came in and never went out, for example)

25th percentile means 3/4 of the worlds nations have a lower life expectancy

LOL

what did you miss from despite having the highest spending per capita?

US has the lowest life expectancy in the entire west.

And it's going down, not up.

It's 46th in that ranking, my country, Italy, is 6th.

USA is even below Lebanon and Estonia.

Lebanon has been at war for the past 40 years and has been bombed several times.

Do you think US citizen know that int their country life expectancy is worse than a country which is literally in ruins?

I suspect you will find yourself consistently down voted and flagged when you speak like this.\

Do you really believe I care about the downvotes ?

You should care about living in a country where some living standards are lower than many third world countries,

- Infant mortality (deaths/1,000 live births)

USA is 46th, worse than Latvia, Lithuania, Cuba, Belarus, Estonia, Antigua and Barbuda

- Under-five mortality rate per 1000 live births.

USA is 44th, again after countries they consider thirld World, including ex USSR (Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Estonia) and Cuba

BTW, when you talk about other countries fascism, true or not, you should remember that in my country there are US military bases, not Chinese.

The Itavia Flight 870 was shot down in 1980 by NATO fighter jets fighting Libyan jets in civil air space, killing 81 people

It wasn't the Chinese

In the 80s CIA was involved with far right terrorism that killed many innocent people, they were scared that Italy was going "too leftist"

The father of a friend of mine was killed on the 2nd of August of 1980, he was waiting at the train station in Bologna.

We were both kids.

Wikileaks revealed the "Kissinger Cables", documents that Henry Kissinger sent to express the intolerance of the US administration for the Italian justice system that was "being too hard" on the neofascists groups.

If you look at the English Wikipedia page for "strategy of tension" and then at this https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategia_della_tensione_in_It... you will see there's a great difference in the story told and the amount of documentation presented. In particular any document that calls out the US, including all the evidence found in over 40 years of investigation by the Italian authorities, is not mentioned.

Can you guess why?

The Strage del Cermis (Cavalese cable disaster for you non Italian speakers) was caused by an US air pilot, 20 (TWENTY) people died.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalese_cable_car_disaster_%2...

It wasn't the Chinese

And there are many other...

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Can you guess now why I don't care about your downvotes?

It has a lot to do with what kind of criminal lobby is in charge

As European I prefer Chinese communists to American warlords that can't stop selling guns to everyone

If you think about it, the "greatest democracy of the World" has homicide rates worse than Nigeria and Congo and is engaged in more wars than any other country.

Can an US citizen really criticize other countries for being fascist?

p.s. the data is good

Ad blocking isn't a community

It's a user's side tool to remove unwanted content based on community generated rules

It's content moderation nonetheless

The error IMO is to think that the current implementation, which is also very young and immature, it's the best possible

It isn't

HN is not really a community, it's a platform run by a commercial entity, with (legit) interests

Imagine if HN was just a node of a larger federated network

They could decide what to post on their node(s) and which comments to remove

I could run my instance and subscribe to their feed or their same source feeds and make different choices

People could share blocklists, whitelists, favourites, ratings and everything else and decide what to use and what not

HN would still be popular, but other nodes could benefit from having more freedom or making different choices

Now HN (and every other UGC out there) is an all or nothing experience

Facebook is facing an ad boycott because they can't moderate the platform the way corporations want, it means advertisers are the ones who ultimately decide which content is valuable and which is not, sometimes it can coincide with what users want, but more often than not it doesn't.

But if we produce the content (like this conversation we're having) we should have control over it, and be able to reproduce it on a instance we control and continue it ad libitum even when HN decides our karma doesn't allow more than a few comments a day or one of us is shadow banned for reasons completely unrelated to what we are discussing right now or because it looks like spam to them or any other reason they think it needs moderation.

It's their right if the content is free for someone else to pick up and they are not responsible for what happens on other nodes.

It should be part of giving back to the community, you generate content for us, we moderate it like a DJ selects music for the listeners, but you can make your own playlists if you want to, because we don't make the music, we just mix it.

Nobody said HN should not moderate their public instance, they have people to respond to, it simply shouldn't be the only instance

If I had a feed of every comment and every link posted, I could read them and make my own rules

Now I can't

This only works for small communitie

That's simply not true

Ad blocking works because I decide what to block, not because the websites posting the ads are moderating them in a good way

Let me decide, is it really that scary?

My email account is not on Gmail, I manage the spam, and it's ridiculously easy to get just the content I want and delete everything else

It's hard to scale it for hundreds of accounts automatically, but it's not on a personal level

Forums are about what I want to read, not about what it's good for me because a platform says so.

"People have the power" Patty Smith used to say

It works because I decide.

There's no intrinsical limitation on the number of participants

Don't you like what a user says?

You can ignore them

Don't you like what some instance does, you can block it.

Any platform that is popular has an editorial board and doesn't want you to say things they don't like.

Simple as that.

Newspaper had no comments sections because it's silly to comment the news, they already decide what to publish and what not.

They already chose who to talk to, there's no point in discussing when you can only comment what someone else wants you to talk about.

Have you seen today on HN a post about exactly 40 years ago, when an Italian civil plane, the Itavia Flight 870, was shot down by a fight between NATO and Libyan fighter jets and 81 innocent people died?

You won't, because it's gonna be flagged as politics.

But you're going to read about every cat fight between über rich silicon valley founders because that's not politics for them, it's what they wanna talk about.

Trolling is a problem for the platform, not for the users.

I don't mind trolls, if I can decide who they are and silence them.

If they do it for me, it's censorship.

Censorship is not bad per se, but it's not done in my name, it's only in the platform's interests.

Do platforms ever ask users what do they think about banning someone?

Of course they don't...

That's the nature of discussion when there is someone who controls the discussion.

If I'm having a discussion with people in real life I decide what I accept or not, there's no third party that decides for me what is right.

Decentralisation is exactly about that: it empowers you and not someone else to decide what you like to read or not.

This post is being downvoted but it's a well known feature of HN that heated discussion are immediately flagged and they disappear very quickly

If a platform wants people to engage but don't want people to be passionate about their beliefs, it is not a discussion platform, it's a walled garden for a certain type of opinions.

Does it make discussions better? probably, if you already agree with the rules or can (or want) to follow them.

What if you can't?

What if a topic is divisive because on HN people refuse to acknowledge that the general view on HN is simply wrong?

Nobody will ever know.

Imagine a person going to a vegan restaurant asking for a steak. How long will it take to get kicked out?

That's a feature, if you are vegan, but it's not desirable for every restaurant, especially if they want (or like) to serve a broad range of customers.

Of course HN can say that this is exactly what they want, but what about the discussion about "is what they want right?"

I'm talking about HN because one of the post mentioned it like a good example of a free and open platform, but a platform that bans users for talking about politics is not really a good example of good moderation.

Moderation should happen on the receiving side, when it happens on the publisher's side it's called editing.

Any news outlets has editorial boards, there's nothing wrong about it, but it should be clear that the opinions expressed on an editorialised platform are not free.

Decentralisation has, among the many downsides, the advantage of being controlled by the party who receive the content, not the one who generates it.

This is not true.

my Android phone warns me if an app is trying to use features that require permission while in background and asks me if I want to revoke the permissions, enable it only while the app is active or let it use it always.

pretty easy to use and anyone can guess that the bus or car sharing app doesn't need to use GPS all the time

When the controller is a "smart" app store, you know what they delete, but you don't know what they keep and why they do it.

they chose for you and never ask you if you're okay with it or not, so basically it's not your phone, it's their phone.

There's just no comparison

Exactly.

One supports just a few devices, the other supports hundreds.

One is free, the other is not.

Guess which is which.

if Nexus 6P is not supported is Google's fault

Nexus 6P was a bad phone, with sever problems, it was discontinued after a year and you could obtain a compensation if you had one that was faulty.

Still the community tried to support it

They decided wasn't worth anymore

The community is people, Apple is not people.

It's enforced better than in the US, on many levels.

First, they can't really arrest you without motiv, they can't even detain you without motiv.

Second: you can confront a police officer in EU, they won't shoot you or handcuff you, unless you pose a real danger to public safety.

I had a fight with one of them three months ago, he almost ran over me with his bike and when I confronted him he removed his jacket and told he was a police officer. I said "you are two times wrong then" He yelled at me he was going to bring me in, I said "no way" and meanwhile people gathered around me and started saying to the police officer he was abusing his powers, that they had seen what he'd done with his bike and where ready to testify against him, if he didn't apologize.

He went away.

That's almost impossible in the US, where officers are trained to respond physically to basically anything that they consider a threat.

Stefano Cucchi is a very peculiar case he wasn't lawfully tortured, he was killed by the police and then they tried to cover it up.

I went to many events in support of his cause.

After years of trial the officers have been condemned and many high ranking officers asked for forgiveness to Stefano's sister, Ilaria, a great woman who stood alone against the injustice her brother faced.

But it's been a very popular case all over the news, for years, there have been a few others in Italy, but the point is it is unlawful and you can count them on the fingers of one hand.

The real problem in Italy is that it takes decades to get a final judgement.

And right now the right wing parties, that also support Trump, that wants free guns for everybody like in the US.

Anyway, torture is a crime in Italy and it is considerd an aggravating factor if it is committed by an officer.

Google phones are only popular in the US, but Android users are mostly outside of the US.

In Europe the most popular smartphone brand is Samsung.

Lineage supports basically all of their models.

Also: Nexus support is not bad

Nexus 6 and 6p are supported

https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#google

They even support all my Xiaomi devices, including a very old Mi pad second edition.

It's probably the OS that actively supports more devices in existence right now.

iOS doesn't even support all the iPhones.

What's the point if you can't update the OS and if you do you have to jailbreak it again, every time, until you reach a point where you device is not supported or there's no jailbreak available and you are back to the doorstop?

Unofficial Android builds are fully supported, maintained and updatable builds, they simply are not released by the phone vendor or Google.

Yeah, but I can install one of the many unofficial Android builds over and old Android phone.

My mom still uses my old Galaxy S2, which probably costed 50 euros/year over almost 10 years and supports Android 10 thanks to LineageOS.

An iPhone's faith is to become a doorstop no matter what.