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[dead] 3 years ago

It was slow / having issues as in the afternoon, but my last deployment was 6:59pm CST, and it at least responded at 7:43pm CST with a failed deployment. Between those time blocks the entire thing went down. Sites are up, but you can't authenticate with the CLI tools, or get a log in / dashboard with web.

[dead] 3 years ago

Radio silence from heroku as far as I can tell...

So will you now be a terrible company if you host a summit/expo/large-gathering? If that is the trend it could really bite into some of the economies tied into cities used to hosting events.

We got one of our app taken down and a strike on our account, warning that further strikes are going to mean no more developer account. We wanted to re-upload and try to find what the problem was but with no human contact ever able to be made, we had to settle for not doing the app over losing all of our other ones.

Right, much like discussing political maters, when discussing important things; compassion and easily digestible chunks of information go farther. It's OK to be passionate and certainly OK to call things out, but for the most part I think the only people who are able to look past the rhetoric are people who already agree with its position.

I have some facts for you. I hate passive aggressive pop overs that take over a page and then try and make you feel bad for not signing up. Also, against my better judgment I continued to try and read this. It was trash so let me offer some advice that at the least should be equally as subjective.

A good frame of mind or world view to have, is to be open to the possibility that you don't know everything. That we are in a constant state of figuring things out and ratifying what we know, and accept that at some point, if we are tolerant and listen, we may learn something new. Hell, maybe modal window hijacks ARE the best way to try and get people to subscribe.

Thats how you know the leak is real, because this is classic internal Wiki shenanigans, you can't make this up. Also, though there are some talented people working here (you can identify some of their github accounts, thanks to wikileaks tying users to their posts by ID) but I think a LOT of these tools are made/stolen/purchased from elsewhere..

Sorry, I assumed a lot of things there I think. I gathered from what you were saying that you were falling with the popular opinion that Google should filter out "fake news" from its search results (or at least the focused results). So from that perspective, I was trying to draw parallels on how silly it is to demand such a thing.

They have been pretty clear about their goal to have search respond to you as humanly as possible and use AI not just algorithms to find things for you, and I think they have been clear on where they are getting the data they dig up on things.

You don't have to convince me that Google has intentionally led people to become more reliant on them, that is their business model, where user is the product and Google becoming as integral to your day to day life as possible is important; as their business model is literally "people use us the most and we know them better so advertise to them through us".

But I think we should have a clear divide between responsibility of the user and the content aggregates. Just like with editorial news and Journalism we of course can differentiate between the two, and there are ethics and integrity issues we should hold news outlets to, but we need to be careful of confusing a search engine with a news outlet just because people use it to find news and facts from various places. That does not make them arbitrators of the truth. The responsibility lies on the end user to use their judgment and wisdom and research to come to informed decisions. And the responsibility lies on the news agency to report factual things. Google just needs to help me find relevant information, and let me decide what is good ethical journalism and what is fictional drivel.

You might think "But doesn't that mean that anyone can scream as loudly as they want and people will hear them and might listen to them?" Well yes it does. And it seems like everyone here has a problem with that, because they think people have terrible common sense. People have been trying to sway public opinion through media since there was written word. But you should criticize the work of the book author, or maybe even the publisher who is constantly publishing crappy books, but not the book store or library who is just helping you find whatever you are looking for no matter who you are or what you like.

I don't think you people know what you are asking for when you want to put it in peoples heads that because someone or something is popular or used by many people it somehow has a responsibility to curate the truth.