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how does google take your company's software product, repackage it, and charge monthly subscription for it without telling your CEO and legal team about it. Please, I'm all ears.

SPOILER ALERT: 3taps was forced to pay millions in settlement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craigslist_Inc._v._3Taps_Inc.#...

3Taps and PadMapper were companies that partnered to provide an alternative user interface for browsing Craigslist's housing ads. In doing so, they scraped Craigslist's site for data, which Craigslist did not approve of. Craigslist sent both companies a cease-and-desist letter and blocked their IP addresses, but this did not stop 3Taps from scraping through other IP addresses. Craigslist then sued, resulting in this case.

I think you may be in the deep-end now. Good luck with the sharks.

Your audacity is admirable but its foolhardy. You based your entire business on incomplete legal ruling without consulting a lawyer I presume.

How the fuck would you feel if somebody took your life's work, slapped their logo and started selling it? I'm sure you can see the ethnical issues of this and the legal ramifications.

how would you feel if somebody took your product you spent years on, slapped their own logo and started selling it? Intellectual theft is theft regardless....and here you are justifying it. WOW.

are you seriously defending OP's operation? Even when its questionable at best ethically? Google doesn't want people using their search results to make money off of it. If they did, they would release it like Bing API. I'm sure you can see why this would be worthy of Google's attention and why enforcement of such rules is necessary. Otherwise, spamming marketers would easily exploit something like serp api, you are not foolin anybody.

In any case, I saved OP from an even bigger financial ruin. He might just get off with a cease & desist letter. It depends on how much revenue he generated using Google's product without licensing. It's clear OP found out about 3taps vs craigslist, a heavily debated ruling on HN, just today.

Just because Google is a monopoly, doesn't justify civil disobedience here, which seems to be what some are arguing for.

wow these personal attacks are geting ridiculous. all of sudden from random inactive accounts too.

HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU FEEL IF SOMEBODY TOOK YOUR HARD WORK, SLAPPED A LOGO, AND STARTED SELLING IT? YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT???!

I'm taking a snapshot of this entire thread, just in case.

http://archive.is/eDBM6

In any case, it won't help you against Google's army of Ivy league attorney.

your point being? that has nothing to do with bypassing IP bans and defeating captcha. see 3taps vs craigslist ruling from EFF.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/06/padmapper-and-3taps-se...

Reporting illegal activity is not nice? I'm sorry you got caught. Defeating captcha and bypassing IP block from Google servers would fall under CFAA, which they nailed 3taps for.

Yeah, we know you are not a lawyer and neither am I, but writing I ANAL, doesn't really exempt you from the law...im sure it doesn't take a lawyer to realize this.

see 3taps vs Craigslist and the CFAA ruling. Public data is fine, its just when you break their captcha and bypass their IP ban, it becomes an issue. Which you've pretty much admitted in your reddit thread.

You can try defending yourself in court against the world's best legal team. Any capitulation now is better than losing your entire life savings over in the subsequent legal defense fees alone.

edit: whats the matter? run out of alt-nicks? LMAO. dude you make it way too obvious. inactive accounts suddenly converging on this particular thread using the same argument over and over to censor my comments...not even bothering to change writing styles...

Why would you care so much as to personally write that comment? What stake do you own in serpAPI? It fringes Google's trademark and violates the Terms of Service.

If it was okay for SerpAPI to do it then everybody would be launching similar API on top of existing products. It's illegal and you are profiteering off the work of others.

I can't believe I am being downvoted for this. I am going to have to expedite the process now and reach out directly to an executive I know working at Google.

that's totally not the same thing.

Corporations are made up of people but the corporation itself is NOT the sum of its people, it is its own entity, hell US corporations have the same human rights and social number.

The difference is a corporation is void of moral conscience, so you can't really expect to bring your own Judeo-Christian ethics here

yeah sometimes I just get jaded by how materialistic and superficial North American culture is.

as a visible minority, I honestly cannot have the same things that a white person would have without capital. This is just a fact of reality, no matter if I was born here or my kids are mixed, we will never be regarded as true equals. I hate what I have become. Just another immigrant that made it with a bit of money. But I needed to make this money just to have a shot at being treated equally by the mainstream.

It'd be nice to be accepted for who I am, not what I have. I long to be in a culture and society that isn't so materially obsessed...like Berlin.

it's nauseating....I think I need to leave North America for good....the North American Dream ultimately was revealed to me, just a futile exercise in consumption and mostly a dick measuring contest about who has what.

I can't believe I ditched thousands of years of culture and history for this fucking uncultured garbage they call the American Dream.

They grew tremendously because they turned their citizens into commodities at the hands of a few families who were able to bribe their way to the top.

Samsung, Hyundai, all of these guys built their company on the backs of children, women, and men which they exploited the shit out of.

Now, young Koreans are asking, was it worth it? With one of the highest youth unemployment and suicide rates in East Asia, existential questions are being raised about the authoritarian past.

I would've agreed with your statement 10 years ago, but now I'm not so certain, and I firmly believe that everybody is just repeating the government propaganda.

How the fuck is it that everybody just seem to know that authoritarian was responsible for economic revival? It's not even for debate. Yet we have countries like North Korea, still unable to dig themselves out of the economic recession. Argentina, South America, all had similar authoritarians and dictators, the only difference being that they possessed natural commodities that the Western countries could bribe and extract it out of that target country.

It's not exactly a secret as to the extent of subversive & covert actions of American corporations in exploiting South America for their rich natural resources. ex) United Fruit

When you don't have anything your land can provide to the empire, they accept human collateral, in the form of labor (slave?) or mercenaries. ex) South Korea's participation in the Vietnam War was traded for billions of dollars in US aid, that were spent on building the country's infrastructure.

Why is it that we have to be the richest? Why is it such a fucking competition, and why do we not stop and think, what the fuck is the reward at the end of the race created by Yet Another Empire?

what is amazing about it?

qlalqjsgh is my password.

China certainly has very challenging and unique problems when it comes to infrastructures. The sheer size of the population, land mass, the scale of it is staggering.

If only they could open their eyes to democracy and freedom of human rights....then and only then will China be equipped to challenge the American/European hegemony, ushering in a new age of pan-east asian propserity.

In other words, same words, different empire.

2015 called

she is going to jail. 100%. Not very long but....it will take many years before it even gets to the US court for a judgement. During this period, she will be in a cell.

Selling directly to Iran while rying to keep it hidden, was a bad idea. Now Huawei is banned from US, and pretty much all major economies.

I don't know of any other video platform that pays Youtube money

Glassdoor, and filter by most helpful, since it's an open secret that startups write their own fucking reviews.

You always get the down lo when you read a highly upvoted review.

I know this one startup CEO he was caught lying publicly about writing his own glassdoor reviews. It was quite obvious (everybody in the company knew except the CEO).

This is why I use 2nd Line. the voice quality is shit but its free so.

It misrepresents the point of the actual author

It doesn't? The moral of the story is bitcoin hasn't been adopted as much as the bitcoin fanboys will scream.

Not sure where you got the idea that I confused Poland with Russia. I just copy pasted from their website LMAO

Or counting in Finnish :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuNs1v_jtfs

If AWS gets Serverless right....and they are so far with Layers and Runtime API, they are in for a new golden era.

I know people have been on the edge about serverless in the past but it's now reached a point where I'm planning to actively employ them. 2019, will be the Year of Serverless methinks.

Revolut has offices in these locations as well:

Kraków, PL 1 Stanisława Klimeckiego

Moskva, RU Nizhniy Susalnyy pereulok

How likely are these locations likely to cooperate to say a DOJ investigation? Especially the one in Moscow out of all places....

The actual title is link bait. On HN, people don't want to have to read through the whole article to reach a conclusion. In this case, it's perfectly valid to include the main point of the article - Bitcoin failed.

Do I sense another ulterior motive for you to force the title to change? I've definitely seen this behavior on Reddit.

underlying technology is super useful and will find its way into a lot of applications.

I can't think of any other use cases other than illegal black markets.

W3schools helped me land my first job. I learned pretty much everything by reading through it, HTML, Javascript, CSS, PHP, MySQL....don't get why people are bashing them, it was a great resource to have a around.

Whoa, hang on there, let's look at it from the other side.

China chooses band-aid problems over fixing what are extremely complex socio-economic, ethnic dynamics that arose out of a swim-or-drown capitalist system that doesn't offer the usual safety nets found in Western democracies, such as enforcement of regulations and law and more importantly lobbying or "legalized and public bribes".

But the main difference between the West and China is human rights. Note that the West is not exactly innocent here, the concept took a long time to mature. I do have hope for countries like South Korea, which appear to be headed in the right direction.

It's amazing how a simple, fundamental differences about how a human being should be treated between these two cultures can produce such drastically different outcomes.

They can ignore human rights because they can't afford not to.

They can ignore infrastructure problems since they don't care about human rights and no consequences for ignoring legal opposition, because why would you care about the oppositions whining about human rights when there are no consequences?

They can't keep printing money forever because of inflation, no country is immune, this is just the laws of physics. They can do it now because they simply don't care about what happens to the Chinese citizens in the future, and they certainly don't care about their children's children.

China is going backwards, instead of democracy, they chose authoritarianism, well because of Winnie the Pooh decided he would be the new Mao.

Democracy is a long and arduous path, but it is ultimately what a lot of Western countries have gone through, and some new democracies like South Korea are currently going through.

Looking at China today is like looking at America in the 1800s and early to mid 1900s, when the industrial revolution started happening, and they didn't give a shit about letting women and kids work in dangerous factory conditions. They also imported a bunch of humans like commodities....they interned Japanese Americans like Uhigurs...horrible horrible shit

If it were not for the Founding Fathers of the US constitution, and the subsequent descendants iron will to uphold that constitution it wouldn't be where it is today....but I fear that this will not always be the case, and the US can easily snap into authoritarianism....just watch Vice and Unitary executive theory....it's so easy to make up new legal jargon to centralize power to a single individual.

all I know is they raise interest rates, it absorbs up the money supply in circulation due to the attractive yields on the Ts

also the whole trope about 'China owning most of US T-bills' is actually false, there is apparently T-bills that are specifically sold to foreign nations, and then there are the real T-bills that not many countries own. The other one is an IOU and may not be honored, say during wartime.

Tibetans talks through all the different stages of heightened awareness as you meditate deeper. In fact, one of the meditative technique requires you to visualize the Tibetan alphabet letter for AH sound, sort of like the OM sound in Hindi, and it goes into great detail about what sort of sensations one might feel, so its very possible that you've reached a mental state that is just void of the ego that you used to have. It's the ego that fears death most of all, because it means losing attachment to the material things in the ego's mind.

I remember one Hindu guy telling me after a long discussion in the sauna, "Ego is your brain trying to protect you from truths you cannot handle".

It left a lasting impression on me.