alabato

Indeed it is surely not true that they have camps where they do large scale genetic experimentations on babies... But from what we know they still at least did one such experiment. And this is completely insane and past any most basic ethics to do a non-consenting human experiment that moreover does not even aim to cure him but tries to find out how to build a stronger race.

wow that's messed up :(. We experimented on a baby that :

1) never had the need of this experiment, it was not to cure him but to test the effect of messing with a certain gene.

2) we never had its consent (obviously)

I don't know about US, but in EU we don't experiment with people, without their concent and in order not to cure them, but to find how to build a stronger race.

That's a whole higher level of screwed up that just happened in China.

This is non-consenting human experiment in order not to cure but to find how to build a stronger race. This is not (as far as I know) in any way comparable to what is happening in the West

Well China is doing total surveillance, even the most dystopian sci-fi are now an everyday reality of China, some BlackMirror episode like the one on Social Credit which were meant to be sci-fi are now more of a documentary on China's Score system.

And now China announced they edited a baby's gene not to cure him but just to test if they can buit a new generation of more resistant humans.

Please tell me how this is not completely screwed up ?

(I'm not defending the US, they are in the top of the most mass surveillance countries too, I'm just defending some basic notion like "We should not use non-consenting people as guinea pig to build a stronger race of human" and this kind of stuff...)

You followed the news right ? They removed a gene from a baby not to cure him but just to experiment and see what's going to happen to him. This absolutely inhumane. This children had scientist messing with his DNA without his consent, just to see if they can create a new generation of more resistant humans. So scientists are perfectly fine with doing inhumane experiments it seems...

Are you saying the west should allow human experiments on innocent (to-be-born) humans like in China just to keep the pace ? The right to decide what we do to your body, the right to not serve as guinea pig to experiments that aim to achieve a Nazi-like goal of creating a superior race... These are "vague" ethics? If you were currently dieing because of secondary effects due to an experiment we did on you as an embryo (and that you never needed) maybe you wouldn't find those "vague" ethics so useless.