againandagain

Cool. I will have a look then. Thanks again for the tutorials and fixing Jitsi bugs. This is definitely a step in the right direction for moving beyond Skype. Great to see it.

Was "darwin libc" copied from somewhere? Maybe a BSD project? Check your facts.

Android uses a Java-based VM. iOS does not. Is that correct?

Can you boot your own OS (sans Java VM) on an Android device? How easy is that to do?

By content do you mean text, images, or both? Do you care about things like fonts? Or is it more important that stuff is just consistently readble? What if there a way to make all text on all websites look exactly the same (only formatting is different)?

Put affordable 3D printing and thus production of small hardware enclosures in the hands of honest and open creative people (that excludes Apple). Let the electronic engineers design the boards, and the Asian factories mass produce them. But let honest creative people design and produce the enclosures.

There are so many more creative people out there who could contribute to how electronic gadgets look and feel but who can't because of the closed prototype-->offshore mass production pathway, which has not changed since the 1970's.

Everyone can see that continuing to rely on Apple as the sole source of creativity is not going to work.

I applaud this effort. Jitsi is nothing new and predates all the Skype hype. My guess is it may even be true "end to end," i.e. it relies on no third party "service" that Joe User would find a little too much hassle to run himself, such as XMPP (or even SIP, for that matter).

But the first problem I have with Jitsi is that the source is still not open. Looking at current website you have to be a "project member".

It's Java-based, right? I want to see that code. If the solution I'm using is less than a few hundred lines of C (quite manageable for any security analysis), why should I blindly (i.e. without seeing the code) switch to Jitsi?

These p2p threads are continually entertaining because they prove time and again how many people still think NAT traversal is some sort of "magic" requiring special expertise (e.g., that only Skype or some other private company has).

That might just be a myth.

Example: Proving a negative. If I can't find a piece of code to do some task does that mean it does not exist? Maybe I just can't find it?

agranig himself mentions a couple of things that are in wide use but "little known". Not every solution is going to be widely known. That does not mean such solutions do not exist.

re: p2p stuff

Read the code before you read the marketing copy.