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I remember using and WAP2IRC gateway to impress my IRC buddies.

Coz Scandinavia or Canada....

Well yes. That is exactly as society.

We ignore the people that actually feed us (farmers), and instead we focus all our energy on the people that feed us bullshit (Elon M.).

It is ironic isn't it.

Having everything society has to offer actually makes you dull and miserable, and depressed.

I can fully understand your sentiment too. I not have always lived in Scandinavia. But sadly now I can fully relate to the author too.

This discussion needs more exposure because it is hammering the nail hard in the head.

I have come to both conclusions on my own too... Is it better to live in competition to avoid thinking... Or... Is it better to derive joy form external factors: family, craft, nature.

I have no good answer but love where the discussion is going.

I also live in Scandinavia.

Hmm... Hard to beat that energy density when the workload is large.

Trucks, tractors, planes, ships. Sure consumer cars will be EV but ICEs are not going anywhere

Factorio takes me around 250 hours every two years.

It's not an avarage but in a burst

People might not be aware but this is standard operation for any kind of integrated OEM ( other equipment manifacture)

You sell units at break even, hoping you make profit from service and support.

Sure. I can hand you a handful of USB sticks about 20 paper wallets maybe a hard disk or two...and tell you, here are my keys. Now what you do? Do you put down your gun and start verifying which one is with actual funds or, do you know what is a usb drive and what is a hw wallet? Are you gonna ask me for my password too. How do you know you actually stole something worthwhile? How do you know I am not going to be faster transferring the coins to different wallets?

All that is vs. "show me gold, shiny ohh heavy".

You see the levels of complications....

Here is the irony of crypto vs gold...

You can secure ur gold physically very well, fires and natural disasters short of volcano, yet it is easy to steal it at gunpoint.

Crypto is hard and cumbersome to secure ( paper keys, hw Wallets), yet very hard to steal at gunpoint.

You can call it that.

But both data and research and confirm that.

Also there is plenty of anecdotal evidence especially in IT of highly successful career women that would drop everything just to have have children.

It made me sad too.

All these brilliant minds working for so long and accomplishing so much... Just for a clap and cheer, yet tommorow they have to do it all again in the rat race. Yet cryptokings are basking in glory for a lifetime.

Well if you take a look at the project managers in for example... Accenture.. Most of them have none of the skill you mentioned. They just have been at the right place at the right time... They know what ass to kiss and go along their days happily double clicking on the internet and overselling government it projects....

Alot of the same can be said about many startup ceos.

Just take a look at all the crypto startups that made millions in 2017-2018

I still confuse them....

Guys please, do some reaserch first.

There is plenty of people on YouTube showing fsd in action with all its quirks and features.

Here take a look a whole channel with fsd drives:

https://youtu.be/rKG3eDppzm4

Ok here is a breakdown for an 8 hour shift of a project manager vs rockwool factory worker.

Project manager: 8:30-9: Show up in office. Get coffe.

9-10:30: Check email.

10:45: Standup Meeting.

11-12: Lunch

12:30-2.00: Sprint Planning meeting

2.00-4.00: Help team and answer emails.

4:15: Go home.

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Factory Worker: 6:55- Be ready and changed on post on the line:

7:00- Line take over and work:

9:00-9:10: Coffe Break.

9:10- 11:30 : Line work. Clean up some shit with no protection.

11:30-12:10 : Lunch Break.

12:10-1:30 : Line work.

1:30-1:40 : Coffe Break

1:40 - 3 : Line Work.

3:00 - 3:30 ( not payed ) : Change and go home

--- To clarify: There is no chairs on the line. So Line works means your standing....

Both jobs can be done by anyone,

But only one of the jobs requires you to have friends and kiss ass. Guess which ?

Yehhh... yehhh.. naaahhh...

Rich people dont work so much... They just make so much money sitting around with other rich people they might as well call it work...

If you work in wall-mart your lunch is not paid. If you are the CEO of wall-mart you can expense a 2000 USD lunch and call it a buissness meeting.

If your job is number collection (realestate, banking, etc ) it is an addiction just like hoarding, the more you do it the more bigger number you want.

We should start shaming people for hoarding money just like we shame the poor for collecting toilet paper.

Working 12 hours as a CEO is not comparable to 12 hours shift in the factory.

Compeletley agree.

Elon was lucky to be born in a rich family. Made his first 100k before 18.

Felix was lucky to be born in time to ride that hippie wave.

Just like some people were lucky to throw money on bitcoin in 2010~2015.

Still more should be a credited to chanse and luck.

That is like listening to advice from Elon Musk, good advice but he always forgets that all the advice is worthless, if your father doesn't have a precious gem mine in Africa .... Bottom line will always be:

"Being born rich, is the only guarantee to succes. Everything else is pure luck."

You are either born rich, or lucky enough to hit the lottery.

the well-known lack of trust among Arabs for anyone outside their own family adversely affects offensive operations.

This can basically summarize the entire problem of the middle east

What I meant was: "why do you not mind the current state, where the workforce is ingested with "drugs""

Yet you don't like the idea of "drugs" actually making people's live better?

The current world... Capitalism and political systems, is just an emergent result of society's internal stress, it is pendulum between, trying to making it and giving up to depression...what if we can actually balance that with a slight change to our diet of, vitamins, food supplements, neuro stimulants ( coffe, sugar)... Maybe we just need to sprinkle som psylocibin on top?

Should that apply to all digital computations?

Data centers? Youtube? Facebook?

Should they and bitcoin be seen on the same level?

But you don't mind the current state of affairs where everyone is being ingested with sugar and caffeine? Are those not drugs?

Office productivity is directly corrolated to the coffe machine. The moment that breaks down everything stops. Coincidence, or are we all addicted to a drug?

Compared to deaths from regular flu each year.

In 2017 there were almost 80k deaths in the US due to flu.

In 2018 around 40k.

Yes currently its being reported that there has been nearly 500k deaths due to covid only. Note the only part.

I smell number fuckery here...

You can not make any of these comparisons, Bulgaria is a very special country.

1-Prime minister is a thug and soon to assume dictators role.

2- Population is in HEAVY decline, unlike most places.

3- Most of the educated people emigrate abroad, and never return, in result the remaining population is mostly in "risk group" .. but it is not a group if its most.

4- 10% of the population (romes), do not count as Bulgarian and will not be vaccinated, so that is also a huge problem.

And most of these factors are due to culture/mentality problems, that stem from within.

So yeh. Bulgaria is not comparable to other countries

Yes. But given the choice, in non life or death situation. Between sex and food. People would pick way more sex than food.

What I mean is that sex is easier to reach for than food when a person is bored.

Just like heroin is more potent than aspirin.

Also it has been proven that both sex and heroin stimulate pleasure parts of the brain.

The drive for reproduction is way stronger than the need for energy (sugar - ice cream).

I will be refusing to return to the office for several reasons:

1- the threat of Covid is not going away in the next 2-3 years. I am no risking it!

2- I and everyone in my team have been more effective, less stressed working from home for more than a year now. Why would I go back to a less efficient way of work?

Because you end up feeding a primate/reproductive prime control system, using unlimited and synthetic input. The system was never designed for the this kind of "bandwidth". Since we are biological machines, other parts of the organism need to compensate... This compensation is very dangerous in the long run both from a personal and a social side.

You could argue the same about entertainment. But seeking it is not a prime directive on an organic level opposed to reproduction.