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What you asked me to do was overly onerous for a discussion. Even if I found the links and gave you them, I will be told there isn't a problem (especially judging by the username) and I am "taking things too seriously".
There is huge amount of cringe and embarrassing behaviour in the Linux community and Tech community in general. It is well known and denying it is utterly disingenuous.
I find you can get a fair way with using backports. I am running the latest kernel and pipewire gubbings.
Debian 13 has mesa 25 which seems to be the latest or very close to the latest and installing an updated kernel was trivial via backports.
People exaggerate the problems of using a stable distro.
I didn't like it at all for FPS
No the correct choice is what I want to use and it is Debian. Distro-hopping doesn't fix your problems and you will end up with either the same issues or more issues by distro-hopping.
I use my Linux machine for things other than games and I am not moving to "distro of the week" to run one game.
I've had zero issues on Windows. None at all. I have a AMD GPU.
Linux issues have been poor performance generally. Once I installed kernel 6.16 that was fixed.
They are finally adding the option to setup a user desktop to the installer in a build shortly. Which needed to be done years ago IMO. They are doing some outreach on their YouTube channel.
If they do I might try it. However I've had issues getting the video drivers to behave on BSDs even ones that "should" work. Hopefully podman and/or docker is something I can use easily.
I have a Steam Link and the Original Steam controller. The manufacturing while perfectly functional isn't that high quality.
This looks similar. Kinda like a mid-ranged PC case quality.
Their previous generation controller wasn't great (I have one). I got it on sale and the haptive stuff didn't work to well IMO.
I have a 8bitdo controller and they are really good. They work perfectly with Debian 13 and probably pretty much every other distro.
Gaming on Linux is hit and miss, depending on the distro you use and your desktop environment. Some games should be launched with gamescope if you are using Gnome/GDM
To have HellDivers run in borderless window on Debian 14. It required me to manually compile gamescope (wasn't that difficult but Valve's instructions are out of date), and use the backports on Trixie to upgrade the kernel to 6.16, and update wireplumber and pipewire (sound was flakey on some games). Kernel 6.16 performs much better than 6.12 just generally.
All the Arkham games work perfectly. Doom Eternal has some weird latency in the mouse and aiming doesn't feel right.
I could never get my Xbox One bluetooth controller behaving with Linux. I ended buying a 8bitdo Xbox style controller which works perfectly. It is much better made than the Xbox controller and roughly the same price.
Retroarch is already on Steam as well as other emulators.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1118310/RetroArch/
Even if you didn't want to use the Steam versions. Steam OS is essentially a customised Arch Linux and you can install stuff as you would on other Linux distros e.g. via packages and flathub. Basically it is a regular computer underneath. That is why I am very excited about this Steam box.
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/guides/view/how-to-install-ext...
They have been trying to make VR thing since the 90s. It has never reached mass appeal and never will.
I can't wear one of those headset (I get severe motion sickness).
You are asking for something unreasonable i.e. I go through possibly several months of YouTube history in a comment section argument to "prove" that there people in the Linux community that do weird and cringey things, which is something that they are known for.
This is after you insinuated that I lied less than two comments ago. You put remembering in scare quotes and some other dude told me I was a "clown" because I can't remember username I saw months ago.
So no. I won't be doing that for you or anyone else now.
I went with the former, because somewhere above, you told somebody off for their innocent little left-pad sticker.
I didn't tell anyone off. I honestly don't see what amusing about it. You stick it on the back of your laptop and do what? I used to forget the stickers were even there when I did it and found it very annoying to peel off later.
And if people like you and me show up and do nothing but complain about them, and I tell them they're stupid for thinking they "are" a "libra", and you tell them how their sticker isn't even funny, then at that point, we have not only not accomplished anything (I wouldn't even feel better myself), and it's entirely fitting to call us grumpy.and maybe even make a little fun of us.
I've long accepted I am an arsehole. The opinion I originally said was pretty mild and as per usual people made it more of a controversy than it originally was.
if literally everyone around you is saying that you are wrong (Including your friends, even), then maybe it is time for some soul searching.
No I said they don't listen to what I say or are likely to understand it. I am normally talking about technical things and how it interfaces with law e.g. OSA, encryption, right to repair etc.
Many people in my family are laymen and work manual jobs their only use of technology is Whatsapp, Facebook and Xbox Live. My brother is a welder, my father is a joiner. My best friend loads purfume onto a truck and cannot do basic algebra and skipped school at 14, my other two good friends while more educated are completely non technical. I normally get a link to amazon as a screenshot in whatsapp as they don't know how to copy and past from the address bar.
What usually happens is that I am proven right like about a year or two later and it is never mentioned again because I don't want to berate my family and friends. I've learned over time not to bother discussing these subjects with them because it is a waste of time. One of my friends got quite upset once when I was talking about how bitmap graphics worked.
Thanks though for taking the worst possible interpretation of what I said and not answering my question I asked and doing pretty much what I am complaining about. I really appreciate that :-S.
I want you to answer my original question. If people don't listen to you (MPs, and other people in power) and you can back up what you are saying with good evidence. What are you supposed to do?
I am not going back through months worth of YouTube history to satisfy people have insinuated that I have been lying on a claim that isn't even that controversial. I mainly watch car and canal boats videos these days and don't bother with tech stuff outside of security and home lab bits and pieces.
I was trying to find videos palatable to someone that is interested and just wants to run something reliable instead of Windows. I didn't find any.
The point we're making in this thread is that we aren't seeing the same things you are, and it's highly likely that whatever comments you're thinking about are not representative of the kinds of opinions people in tech hold.
Linux cringe is a thing that been a complaint for a while. That why people do copy-pasta of the GNU\Linux stuff, the "programmer socks" meme, "I run arch BTW" and there is the infamous dropbox post made on here back in 2008.
Most people that don't exist in online world, find all of this very weird and off putting.
You don't need my permission to do what you want. I am sorry I sound dismissive, but a lot of the so called humour is a bit passe IMO.
I didn't mean to sound rude to you.
Feigning urgency is a well known tactic to get people worked up and worried to spur them into action. It is a well known manipulation tactic.
I am mainly talking about YouTube. I mainly lurk on other platforms, but the same people are there.
There is a tribalism aspect to all of this.
I also get people want to personalise stuff. I drive an old 4x4 and modded it (nothing too crazy), and I am planning on getting an Armstrong MT-350 if I can find one. Each one will require me actually doing work on the vehicles.
And to be frank, in our current climate, politics is very important.
I heard that 20 years ago when I was in my early 20s. Everyone claims it is of the upmost importance at <current time>. Even if it was, putting a sticker on a laptop isn't going to change it.
Ok. You got me on that one. Mainly because it is a statement of fact.
No it isn't. I cannot do anything meaningful about it.
I have written in the past to MPs (many times). I was either ignored, or I was told I didn't know what I was talking about even though I actually was working in a related area.
If I talk to my friends, they don't care. If I talk to my relatives, they don't care either or understand. If I talk about it on the internet, I am told I am wrong and I should shutup, even when I post direct evidence of something and back it up with references. This hasn't been just one thing either, it been many different things.
So I want you to tell me what am I supposed to do exactly?
No. I just can't remember who these accounts are because I pretty much insta-block the them from my feed.
The reason I am complaining about this is I was trying to find some good info to send to a friend.
I ended up making my own no-BS videos to send to my friends instead and putting them up on YouTube.
It isn't I won't say. It is I can't remember because I pretty much insta-block it when I see it.
Some notable examples of stuff I've seen in Linux / Tech land the last few months:
- One person was dressed in a furry lizard suit, while compiling gentoo.
- Another person made a song about Debian packages. I thought it was a gag at first.
- Another woman was dressed in a school girl outfit, cat ears and a push up bra (not sure she was Linux stuff, but it was tech).
I am not expecting everyone to be some greybeard in his office but some of it is a bit much and sometimes they have really good info in the video, but the initial impression is so jarring that it will put people off (I had people tell me this).
I actually made my own YouTube channel because I was trying to find decent information to send to someone who was a new Linux user without this BS. I ended up making videos myself detailing how to setup a bunch of stuff up.
I gave an example of something I remembered from last month. I can't remember the exact name of the account, and I normally block them afterwards or mute them from the feed.
The reason I am complaining about this is I was trying to find some good info to send to a friend. I ended up making my own videos to send to them as I had 3 or 4 different people asking me to show them how to do things on Debian. So I ended up recording how to do it myself.
I will also complain about it in the manner I wish. Since you have no called me a clown, I will now complain about it more vaguely.
Giving up just ensures that your voice and values certainly won’t be heard.
It won't be heard anyway. It is a fiction that I as a fucking nobody can affect anything in any meaningful manner. It is a delusion that is sold to people so they believe that they have a voice.
The only thing I might be able to do is stop other people from wasting their time.
But I guess it’s comfortable enough for you still so there is little reason to get active. Soon it won’t be so comfortable anymore also for you, by then it will be too late to speak up.
What you are doing is essentially a guilt trip. I don't want to spend possibly the rest of my life on a political project.
It’s laughable that you think nothing has changed in the last 50 years politically.
No it isn't. Go back 40-50 years (1970s) and look at TV, docs, news reports etc. Many of the same issues are being discussed in pretty the same way word for word. I have read stuff about the Roman Empire where it seems people were making political arguments that sounded very similar to what is heard today. The human condition is constant throughout all of recorded history.
Not so recently they were still putting people to death by the hundreds of thousands in my country and I’m sure as shit not gonna let it happen again, even if it’s a bit cringe for you to witness resistance to facism
I've heard this melodramatic nonsense my entire life. The Nazis and Fascists are gone, the few that remain are completely irrelevant. I was told George Bush was Hitler 2.0 back in the early 2000s. These days people talk about his bad paintings.
It isn't grumpiness. I am allowed to complain about cringe and slacktivism which is rife in the tech land, which is what laptop stickers are. It is a symptom of a bigger problem.
There are loads of tech influencers in the Linux space on Youtube and loads of techie platforms. There is various levels of cringe in the Linux space, some of it is honestly embarrassing. If you don't see it already, you are going to tell me it isn't a problem. There isn't one person doing this. There are plenty.
I think generally people are I'll equipped to engage publicly in politics. Politics is an extremely dirty game and can be extremely divisive.
Go on YouTube, Mastodon or any sort of social media that is bit techy orientated and you will find it easily.