MrNeon

I'm curious, what would you personally consider to be a step too far in the fight against CSAM?

How Could You Possibly Be Against This?!?!? Regulation

I use Firefox with uBlock and besides a couple of times where video start was delayed by a few seconds it has been working as well as before.

Section breaks keep the formatting changes from affecting the previous/following content so you can place and format images as you wish.

I've seen that sentiment on reddit as well and I can't phantom how you think it being on purpose is more likely than a mistake when

1 - The error is so blatantly large

2 - There is a graph without error right next to it

3 - The errors are not there in the system card and the presentation page

Sure but "Also the the sora videos are proven to be modified ads" is demonstrably false, for the demos OpenAI shared and the artist made ones.

Oh, so not the actual demo videos OpenAI shared on their website and twitter.

Also the the sora videos are proven to be modified ads

Can't find anything about that, you got a link?

MJ coomers? The same MJ that bans accounts for coomer content?

Not sure that will change just because of a new frontend.

What is ultimately going to be undefeated is training your own model.

From scratch?

Seems to be stock footage, is it surprising makeup would be involved?

It is very obvious that the amount and type of damage is not the same if you clone any random person's voice or clone a political leader's voice.

It is not the same damage.

Even if it takes a thousand tries, that means one out of thousand users would get it.

If they use that particular prompt that primes the model for regurgitation.

It's not one in a thousand of regular queries.

It is clear you're arguing from an emotional, not logical, standpoint where facts don't matter.

How can we disagree on facts? There are no billionaires just sitting on billions. They are in circulation.

Believe it or not billionaires are part of the public and those billions are in circulation. There are no dragons sitting on hoards of gold.

More importantly: money that is not in circulation doesn't affect you or me, it has the same weight on the economy as all the gold still not mined.

I've yet to be confused about whether something is ai generated or real for more than several seconds.

How did you rule out survivorship bias?

This issue here is thinking you, holding the knowledge to 3D model, are not also a holder of capital. Capital isn't just money.

but it's not a problem our economy seems equipped to solve

It's not a problem at all in my opinion.

Since people like working on art projects, people will often line up to do so even when conditions and pay don't economically square with their effort.

The pay has only to be accepted to be fair. You're free to start your own production company that pays more "fairly" but you'll find yourself with fewer opportunities to give people this "awe" than the company that can finance more projects.

To benefit from this vocational awe

Warner Bros. is losing money by scrapping the movie, how are they benefiting in this case?

Is a farmer exploiting somebody's need for food?

Money isn't consumed and it only has value when used.

Neither are the things in question, the resources for movie making are not public, crew isn't public, actors aren't public. It's not a public resource in any way.

"the public" and "public" are two different things. the labor and resource markets are private, not public.

The penalty is that they lose money at the end of the day. It is not a sustainable business practice.

wastes the time and effort of everyone involved in the production with no recourse

Those people were already paid for their work.

Neither the resources or the labor are public.

There is nothing secret to hide, what would be the purpose of blocking it?

Your phone example is just theft unless I'm misreading...do you want to go down the path of calling copyright infringement theft?

As for the card example it is on you to keep secrets secret. It is clearly a fault with how credit cards work and for things like that you should get insurance. Keep your card safe, or better yet, use cash. We can call it theft, doesn't matter to my point.

There is no "taking" or "grabbing" anything, I visited your website and was served a copy of the data because you made it do so. You wanted it to happen, for the public to see it, that was your goal. You expected it to happen. Do you disagree that me acquiring a copy was consensual? If so it is very different from the hypotheticals you're posing don't you think?

Once a copy is in my possession you would need to initiate violence to stop me from training a model on it which puts you on the wrong side of the moral line.

Data you put up on the internet is not your body.

Do I really have to explain this? You know I don't. Do better.

it’s basically the input data compressed with highly lossy compression.

Okay, extract the images from a Stable Diffusion checkpoint then. I'll wait.

It's not like lossy compression CAN'T be fair use or transformative. I'm sure you can imagine how that is possible given the many ways an image can be processed.

All the corporations that are offering AI as a paid service?

Am I them?