Bvalmont1

With all due respect, I'm talking about the practice of aligning user needs to product. If we're talking about UI elements inside a design system (such as material design), that is a different discussion alltogether. That's not even where the OP is about.

"The worst thing that there's budget allocated for such things" is just offensive and invalidates all the progress that was made in the past decades in the field of HCI.

Frankly it's dissapointing to see in HN how little understanding there is in what is happening in this field and to see all these passive-aggressiveness towards UX design is frankly demotivating. UX is something that in my opinion is carried by every person that touches the product in some way, it's about more than just putting some flows together as a designer and harrassing developers.

It's a young field. We need UX/ advocates with a seat at the table defending the users. Better yet, we need UX advocates across the board.

But it'll take time, most companies are just getting into it. But making better UX a company wide effort is a good start.

As for the bigCorps, obviously this is a wider discussion than UX alone, as having these dark patterns fall through the process indicates a certain problem in company culture and/or decisionmaking.

It's a bit early to start losing faith, we're just getting started.

Product Designer hoping to someday find a post here to automate my day job so I can spend more time making actual great products.

In Europe we have cheap, accessible education, that alone will amount to more social mobility than anything happening in the US.

I know what you mean, it's harder to get "rich" in Europe, but in terms of going from lower class to middle or upper middle class I think that's easier to achieve in Europe compared to the US.