Bakingpotato

it looks all the files are unmodified, no nothing seems ported they're probably using a ruffle implementation

I guess the one to step in is Ruffle

I don't think Ruffle is HTML5. something about Web assembly and rust?

yeah, pretty much. they're even making new ones, too

true, I guess thats why Ruffle is so popular now

for sure. what with people making new flash stuff for the NG flash jams and all. thank goodness for Ruffle.

if it ever decides to work, lmao.

you can spoof URLs on the Ruffle desktop player, but not using the extension

Ruffle isn't a reverse engineered project, from what I can tell. it seems like they're following some spec, and comparing with the flash player, not decomping it

Ruffle has been getting pretty good. Lots of customization. I hope they can improve the performance at some point, and keep all the options.

There's a reason you don't see too many HTML gaming websites, it itsn't that great for games, as much as they would like it to be.

Absolutely. Get the authoring software, (I hear a certain animate archive has them) and post to NG like all the Flash forward jammers have Ruffle works wonders

you can spoof URLs on the Ruffle desktop player, but not using the extension

that's true. I think a few flash games did a split swf thing for DRM purposes, and yeah. look where that got them... lost media ahoy for html5

while that might be true, its probably more true that they want to own the internet (see: nonstandard changes within chrome, forcibly making chromium dominant, the AMP debacle) and adobe SWF files aint google

now that is the real flaw of flash, and the most overlooked bit. all the while people (and adobe) were making login pages and security within flash (which is insane, you don't use an animation tool for those!) they should have focused on accessibility. Adobe promised the world when they bought macromedia and instead did nothing.

and then adobe spit on all of it. what a waste, and its all on adobe.

nah, HTML5 was and still isn't good enough for a straight conversion, as years of flash ""alternatives"" have shown us.

less rose tinted glasses and more the insanity of people entrusting logins and security to flash player to start with, or even adobe for adding that in. Yknow. if it was riddled with bugs and all that, you might avoid such a thing, for say, a banking page. Macromedia designed flash to be a web based animation system, not a full web stack. The very fact that these things were attempted is insane enough, and whats worse is the people who were surprised when it came crashing down.

all this talk about security and flash's being bad at it, and you forget what flash really was for. It wasn't for blaring ads (you can do that without flash) and it wasn't for secure logins anyone who did use it for those was a money maker or a madman.

adobe didn't want to pay for rewrites or bugfixes yeah, its a wonder they ever bought it to start with, then

you don't just buy someone's entire workflow and then not fix any of it. not at least, if you intend for people to believe you when you say you're the future.

oh god, autodesk. don't remind me. exactly correct.

not only that, the shovelware scene proved that it was piss easy to use, and powerful (especially in the later years) see as many html5 gaming webpages lately? yeah, no. the 'death' of flash killed the browser game and rapid prototyping that flash offered, and there is nothing on that level in this age.

the problems that html5, css and javascript could in theory 'solve' are a moot point when the switch to those technologies killed any enthusiasm for it.

yeah I remember that people demonized flash so much for that and turned a blind eye once html and javascript was given that power.

jokes on them now, I guess

not to mention flash content could run on a potato, while javascript is soon to see your processor as fried as a potato chip instead

yeah, a lot of flash content that was SVG exclusive can go up past 4k and look stunning, and flash was the only one around then (and debatably, now) with an editor to let someone leverage that

adobe was the death of flash. Macromedia had a better handle on it, and when adobe bought it, then ran it into the floor and gave up early, leaving it to rot.

I don't think they could even open source it, with all the other companies' copyright work they shoved into it, like dolby

good pick.

amen.

I think you nailed it on the head with the demoscene mention. not only was this one of the only ways to get this kind of content in those days, but any ol hobbyist could and did pick it up. netflix is the farthest you can get from ever seeing anything like homestar runner's characters, plot, etc

yeah. the closest to getting flash back is Ruffle, which works pretty well, and Newgrounds does flash game jams still, so it ain't all dead

I don't know of too many, but there are some out there like https://hiddenpalace.org/ (though that is more related to video games).