Ask HN: Shall we use Coffeescript or ES6?

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by sagivo • 11 years ago

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we build a new project with nodejs. we love the coffeescript syntax but seams like ES6 has a lot to offer as well. what should we use?

n17r4m• 11 years ago

Livescript - http://livescript.net

naturalethic• 11 years ago

+1 your microscopically sized comment

alexfreska• 11 years ago

ES6 is quickly becoming the norm and now with Babel there is no reason not to embrace the future. https://babeljs.io/

jessaustin2• 11 years ago

If you love coffeescript syntax, ISTM you'll be happier in coffeescript. That isn't to take anything away from ES6, but coffeescript is just as capable, and your aesthetic preferences are more valid for you than anyone else's would be.

danopilus• 11 years ago

You 'shell' choose for yourselves?

citrusx• 11 years ago

Use CoffeeScript.

Even after all the work that TC39 put into ES6/ES2015, it's still not nearly as well done or helpful as CoffeeScript is. You'll be going against all of the "cool kids" by rejecting ES6, but you'll also be much more productive and happier.

ryanthejuggler• 11 years ago

Honestly, ES6 offers many of the advantages of Coffeescript (arrow functions, destructuring, etc.) and has the advantage of being a standard that will soon be natively understood by browsers, is fully backwards-compatible with ES5 (and therefore widely understood by developers), and also has a lot of IDE support and tooling available.

cnp• 11 years ago

With Babel you can always be sure you're on top of things, with experimental stages being available to the user for testing future language proposals (ES7, ES8, ES20) and a to-die-for plugin architecture. ES6 has become pretty minimal --not as minimal as CoffeeScript, but getting there, with things like:

let { destructured, vars } = myObject

let foo = (num) => num * 2

class Foo extends Bar {

  constructor() {
    this.callFoo()
  }

  callFoo() {
     // Note the simple syntax
  }

}

Also, remember: no need for semicolons, but be aware when they can hang you up! (IIFE's, etc).

weatherlight• 11 years ago

Are there plans to make coffeescript ES6 compatible?

jessaustin2• 11 years ago

It already is, in that any ES6 interpreter can run the javascript that coffeescript produces. Perhaps you mean to ask whether there are plans for generated code to use ES6 features? Before ES6 is universal, that would set up a more complicated build chain (before we used coffeescript; now we have to use both coffeescript and babel). Also there is no point. Everything ES6 can do, can already be done in coffeescript.

serve_yay• 11 years ago

My team uses ES6, today, with Babel. Recommended.

fibo• 11 years ago

There is more than a way to do it. Coffeescript is a nice language, it can be a good choice, depending on the task (for example, atom is written with CoffeeSCript). And don't forget it "is simple JavaScript", you can mix both. ES6 on the other hand will be a great improvement. I am sure CoffeScript will evolve the transpiler to target ES6 too.

je42• 11 years ago

ES6.

vilmosi• 11 years ago

Answer is simple: ES6

honest_joe• 11 years ago

I would say ES6 for anything that will be worked on by more than 2 people. CoffeeScript for one man show projects.

But honestly...ES6 will be the norm and you should know it anyway. So the question is..If you already know CoffeeScript should you keep using it ? The answer is YES ! If that makes you happy why not. But keep an eye on ES6 and learn it.

More delicate question would be. If i start with JS should i learn ES6 or CoffeeScript first ?

sagivo• 11 years ago

CoffeeScript for one man show projects.

what? why? we are a team of 8 working with it and it's great.

seaneking• 11 years ago

Another vote for ES6 - it covers the most important fixes from coffeescript and is the next standard, so you're not writing in a DSL (don't have to worry about it going out of fashion, wider talent-pool in the future, etc.). And with Babel you can use it now and just transpile back to ES5.

borplk• 11 years ago

ES6 and compile with Babel (I've tried every possible combination that you can name, and settled with that as the best choice)

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