The Lucid programming language

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by stefano • 17 years ago

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olliesaunders2• 17 years ago

Kicking off the discussion because I'd like to know what people think:

Clojure uses streams and I imagine Haskell does too. This is a bit different though, I guess.

eru2• 17 years ago

With streams in Haskel, did you mean lazy lists? Or is there something else, I've missed so far?

olliesaunders2• 17 years ago

Yes. That is what I mean.

barrkel2• 17 years ago

I implemented a dataflow language a few years ago, for data binding scenarios in a web application.

In a record-oriented data entry and validation heavy application domain, finance sector, insurance policy records, that kind of thing, an imperative approach to updating the user view gets messy pretty quickly. Using a dataflow approach, the client could receive minimal incremental updates from the server in response to events the client sent to the server, such as filling in a field or selecting a value from a drop-down. Because the structure of the UI was declarative, forms could be both pre-populated on download and incrementally updated (with AJAX) using the same set of definitions, rather than ad-hoc cooperation between either end.

Dataflow is trivially parallelizable in so far as it's not difficult to find things to parallelize; selecting an appropriately sized unit of work is somewhat trickier though.

elblanco• 17 years ago

Dataflow languages lend themselves to graphical programming paradigms much more readily than imperative approaches as well. e.g. This company's http://www.futurepointsystems.com/?page=products XEE product is a pretty slick dataflow XML ETL tool.

zeeone• 17 years ago

  running_avg
  where 
     sum = first(input) fby sum + next(input);
     n = 1 fby n + 1;
     running_avg = sum / n;
  end;

So if you change the name of the function, you have to change it everywhere inside its body? I'm not sure if I like that.

eru2• 17 years ago

Yes. Though I guess you could always wrap it up.

barrkel2• 17 years ago

That's generally the way recursion works too. Do you have similar issues with it?

IDEs have largely made this a solved problem anyway.

The Lucid programming language

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