Ask HN: 3D in Flash 10

I want to know the limits of 3D flat-shaded capabilities of flash 10.

In particular, I've found demos like: http://www.everydayflash.com/blog/index.php/2008/05/05/vertex-animation-papervision3d/ and http://www.yswfblog.com/blog/2008/11/12/3d-with-flash-10-part-2/

but I'm wondering if there is something more impressive around (like a 3D wireframe of a real object) ... or if flash 10's 3D capabitilites are inherently limited to these trivial demos.

Furthermore, if you have a good recommendation for learning flash 10, I'd love to hear that too.

Thanks!