Don't Boycott Firefox Because of Brendan Eich

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by hypertexthero • 12 years ago

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Jugurtha3• 12 years ago

So the guy is homophobic, what does that have to do with Firefox and Mozilla ?

I see a lot of zealotism on these matters against people expressing their views and beliefs. What if he's homophobic ? So what ? Isn't he entitled to have his opinion ?

Paradoxically, and ironically, intolerance towards intolerance still is intolerance. I talked with racist people who hated people from what they think is my religion. So what ? I have no problem with that. And it drove them to change their views, more than if I tried to "enforce" "political correctness". I just didn't give a fuck about it.

It's kind of trendy to be pro-homo, pro-this, pro-that, pro-black, pro-muslim, pro-Yoda, etc.

What's more scary, is that it's become trendy to be intolerant about anyone who expresses beliefs against what is trendy to be. If you're not "pro-homosexual marriage" you're a biggot and a homophobic ignorant prick. Where does all this hate come from ? The guy doesn't lie gay people getting married, it's none of his business, but it's none of our business what he thinks.

Why is it okay for people to lobby for a cause, and not against it ? Isn't it democracy for people to express their beliefs ?

Bear in mind, I have gay friends. I have bi-sexual friends. I have friends from all over the human spectrum. So don't go accuse me of being a biggot, as is the tradition these times with anyone who expresses an opinion.

terrywilcox• 12 years ago

"pro homo"?

Really? You go with a derogatory term, issue the standard "I know gay people so I'm not a bigot" defence, and expect people to take you seriously?

Your first sentence was fine, but you should have stopped there. The rest of your post is exactly why people want to take a stand.

intslack• 12 years ago

"pro homo"?

It appears that Jugurtha is not a native speaker of english, so take that into account before you start taking issue with their word choices instead of their points.

The rest of your post is exactly why people want to take a stand.

Asking why hypocrisy is on display in the campaign to shame Eich into resigning is why people want to make a stand? Really? I thought it was because the LGBT community are being denied equal legal frameworks for marriage, and that many are being discriminated against, abused, disowned, lynched and executed around the world because of their expression of gender identity. Or is that just a Social Justice Warrior tactic, to take a stand because someone "tone-shamed" them?

Their main point that many unfairly dismiss any and all on the "anti-gay marriage" side as homophobic bigots is a valid one. Someone believing that their idea of the institution of marriage being trampled is ignorant, a product of their upbringing and the communities they find themselves in, but not homophobic in and of itself.

Jugurtha3• 12 years ago

Homo is the diminutive of 'homosexual'. A diminiutive of something inherits its qualities. Saying that 'homo' is derogatory is saying that 'homosexual' is derogatory.

When you say in French "Il est homo", people don't take it the wrong way. But it would be really weird if you say "Il est homosexuel".

I feel the people it pisses off the most are the White Knights who go to great length to prove how open minded they are, to the point of jumping right to the jugular :).

And I don't "know gay people", some of my friends are gay. It's not "knowing" in the distance like "I know Hillary Clinton".

And take a stand as you want. As long as people don't see how ironic, really, being intolerant towards homophobic for their..well, intolerance, this will continue to be an issue.

"Either you think the way we do, or you're a bigot".

greyfade• 12 years ago

Doesn't matter now; he resigned.

Don't Boycott Firefox Because of Brendan Eich

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