The Research Problems of Implementing Go

http://talks.golang.org/2014/research.slide#1

by babawere • 12 years ago

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ye• 12 years ago

I fucking hate this slideshows, they never work. Clicking around, scrolling, nothing happens.

justinsb3• 12 years ago

The arrow keys don't work for you?

If it's got to be a slideshow, I much prefer this to SlideShare!

babawere2• 12 years ago

This particular slide does not support keys ... use the arrow keys.

justinsb3• 12 years ago

I'm delighted to see that they're thinking about implementing generic methods, and even included the canonical Sort worst-case example.

The framing of the tradeoffs (slow programmer, slow compiler or slow execution) is interesting. To me it suggests that we'll go with "slow compiler", because slow programmer is always expensive, and slow execution is expensive when run at Google scale.

Although they did stick "and bloated binaries" alongside "slow compiler", which says maybe they haven't quite made their mind up.

sehugg2• 12 years ago

It'd be hard to do worse in compilation speed than C++.

justinsb3• 12 years ago

I think the suggestion in the presentation was that it's a tradeoff: C++'s slowness at compilation is what enables it to be both fast at runtime and fast to program (at least when it comes to generic methods; it obviously has other time-sinkholes).

I agree though, I believe it should be possible to get good compilation speed with generic methods, leveraging the simplified syntax etc of Go.

babawere2• 12 years ago

They have been thinking about for a very very very long time now, i wonder how much longer since there are 2 release in a year and a lot is yet to be done.

frowaway001• 12 years ago

I'm still amazed that it's 2014 and they come up with such dishonest slides like: http://talks.golang.org/2014/research.slide#24

No, you don't have to pick between "slow programmers, slow compilers and bloated binaries, or slow execution". people have been telling them that since what ... 5 years?

The Research Problems of Implementing Go

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