Debian 7.4 Released

http://www.debian.org/News/2014/20140208

by bbzealot • 12 years ago

156 41 12 years ago

0x0• 12 years ago

Nice to see openssl enabling assembler implementations on arm. Seems to improve scp performance a lot!

I can't find any official announcement of it, but it looks like there are now official HVM AMIs available with the release of 7.4: https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image/Wheezy

justinsb2• 12 years ago

If you're running Debian on EC2, do you have the problem where restart from within the instance doesn't complete? (Have you found a way around it?)

Edit: Not sure whether there was a real problem before (vs PEBKAC), but the new images _do_ reboot successfully (takes about 2 minutes). Now to get systemd running...!

robinson-wall3• 12 years ago

No, I'm not noticed this. That said, in the past (2years+) I have contacted AWS support about an instance that wouldn't start and was told shutting down from within an instance would normally work, but was not officially supported.

I think they were just looking for a scapegoat in that particular case.

robinson-wall3• 12 years ago

Ah. The debian-cloud mailing list announcement for the new images just landed in my inbox. The archive[1] has yet to update.

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-cloud/2014/02/threads.html

RexRollman4• 12 years ago

I usually use Arch Linux but I've been playing with Debian lately. I don't like dpkg as much as I like pacman, but it a really nice distro (assuming the age of some of its software packages doesn't bother you).

osivertsson• 12 years ago

Sigh... People always remark on Debian having old packages. Well the "stable" repository might be stable which in this case means run-in-production-for-5+-years-on-many-archs without problems.

But then there is "testing", and "unstable" too which gets newer packages quite often. I personally run "unstable" as my main development machine and have for many years. Even "unstable" is very stable, but might require some manual work once-a-year or so, with a solution often easily found by some google-fu.

Then there is also "experimental", which might very well have broken dependencies etc.

The cool thing is you can run stable, but then pick some packages from unstable using what is called apt-pinning. This way you can get a rock solid base, but use newer packages of some software. Best of both worlds!

sandGorgon2• 12 years ago

Hey thanks for "apt pinning". Never knew about that. One more question - how do you get the Ubuntu PPAs into Debian? It seems a lot of new software is exclusively published on Ubuntu.... at least that's what it seems from Webupd8 and omgbuntu

INTPenis• 12 years ago

Also, besides apt-pinning, I sometimes just do a build-dep for certain softwares and build them manually, the good old way. ;)

But obviously you try to avoid this in production environments if possible.

r0muald• 12 years ago

dpkg? Sure you mean apt-get / aptitude, unless you want to play with some non straightforward way of installing packages.

RexRollman4• 12 years ago

I'm sorry, your right, I meant apt-get. Since I know it is a front end for dpkg, I sometimes mix them up.

gnuvince• 12 years ago

I used to be of the opinion that Debian stable was too old, that its packages were outdated. Then I realized that I only need Emacs 24 (compile it from source) and a recent browser (both Chrome and Firefox have up-to-date repositories). I've been using Debian stable for over a year now, and I don't regret it. As a student, it is more important that my machine remain break-free that it is that I have the latest version of my bittorrent client.

ars2• 12 years ago

For firefox on debian use http://mozilla.debian.net/

RexRollman4• 12 years ago

I've discovered, between using Arch, Debian, and OpenBSD, that I rarely need the newest version of anything. The only time it has been an issue for me is really at the kernel level, when a newer kernel supported something that an older kernel didn't.

giantrobothead• 12 years ago

I'm a Slackware man in everyday life, but I do use Debian to run our NAS at my workplace. Stable, easy to use, and dependable; I have no complaints about its performance.

chimeracoder• 12 years ago

I've used Arch linux on my main computer for the past ~4 years, but I'm considering using Debian on my next computer, just to give it a shot as my daily driver.

Debian packages aren't necessarily much (any?) more stale than they are in Arch. It depends on whether you're using stable, unstable, or testing. (If I remember correctly, "unstable" is actually fairly stable, whereas "stable" is more like an LTS. "testing" is closer to Arch, though less "bleeding edge" than Arch is.)

sea6ear• 12 years ago

I think that it's stable, testing and unstable in order of stability to instability. Stable is guaranteed long term support. Testing generally has had a week of testing to ensure no obvious catastrophic errors, and unstable is basically as is straight from initial packaging

I run testing on my non-prod (experimental) server instances and would probably go with stable for anything production quality, although I've never experienced anything going wrong with Testing.

I have my server tied to "Testing" rather than the current name, which turns it into a rolling distribution (like Arch).

Havoc• 12 years ago

Does anyone have a link for a netinstall image hosted via BT? The one on the debian page is broken.

https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

RexRollman4• 12 years ago

I don't think the 7.4 images have pushed out yet. I always download the newest version, in case I need it, and its not available for me yet either.

marris• 12 years ago

There a typo in the HN title.

urza• 12 years ago

What is the preferred way of upgrading from 7.3 with aptitude?

On the wiki https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude they say dist-upgrade is no longer recommended, I am a bit confused (I don't keep up with linux world very much, I am just a linux hobbyist).

Thanks.

Debian 7.4 Released

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