Show HN: Firesub – Reusable checklists for teams [MVP]

http://firesub.com/

by FrejNorling • 12 years ago

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hdragomir• 12 years ago

Big hat tip!

I feel that to do apps are all very lacking in this respect, the reusable aspect.

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

Thanks, I do to. Also I belive checklists in companies and teams are under used. There is a lot of great To Do apps out there but nothing specially design for reuse within teams and organizations.

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

Hi, I'm the creator of Firesub.

Hopfully you like the idea. I'm very happy to answer any feedback you guys have.

nodata2• 12 years ago

Clicking "Show more" doesn't show me an example. Could it?

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

Sorry of it is unclear, it is suposed to scroll you down so you can read more about the app, what browser do you run on?

FreshCode• 12 years ago

Hi Frej, your MVP landing page is beautifully designed, but it it does not tell me why I would need your product, or really what it is. There are lists and lists of features, but no demos or examples to explain why they are useful. Sell benefits, not features. Good luck!

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

Hi, thanks for your feedback, appreciate it, you are right, I fell in the classical trap of feature selling. I was aiming for a video to showcase the app, but it would have been a lot of work just to validate a simple idea: is this useful, do people need this?

nate• 12 years ago

Looks useful. You might want to have a friend copy-edit your page. There are quite a few grammar errors on here. "Your Feed allow" -> "Your Feed allows". "when your team need them" -> "when your team needs them"

eflowers• 12 years ago

"but it would have been a lot of work just to validate a simple idea: is this useful, do people need this?"

I would say the opposite. You could easily do rapid experiments to validate the idea before investing any development time, figuring out why you are building the product, and how people would use it. It's the whole purpose of UX experimentation and idea validation before investing code time. Not that I'm saying you wasted time, but rapid experimentation, prototyping and storyboard mockups is the opposite of a lot of work, its rapid validation that can help you start off on the right foot. I recommend this video "creating a culture of rapid experimentation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-WLX8gc8WY"

guynamedloren• 12 years ago

I'm confused, is this ready to be used or not? I was excited to play around with it so I signed up, only to be hit with a 'still in development' notification.

Typically, MVP implies a product that's ready to be use. This appears to be more of a landing page teaser.

Regardless, looks like a cool service, and congrats on your progress thus far!

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

Thank you, it was never my intention to trick anyone into beleving it was a fully functioning service. Thats why I put the [MVP] tag in the title. There is of coures different views on what a MVP is. Sorry again if you feel tricked. You can email me at frej@firesub.com and I will remove your mail address so you don't get a email when this is ready to be tested if you want.

That being said, thanks for your encuragement, it helps! =)

antoinec• 12 years ago

"MVP" => Minimum Viable Product (at least here). You just showed the "M" part. I don't see how it's actually possible to misunderstand the fact that it should be a bit more than that.

pkmishra• 12 years ago

MVP doesn't mean it have to be perfect but it also doesn't mean that even basic things have not been taken care of. It's always good to receive feedback early in the cycle but to receive the feedback one should be able to play with the app. I liked the information about the product but it is definitely not MVP. Currently It is no different that showing a ppt.

iamben• 12 years ago

Looks great! Well done!

Just a quick comment about the first heading: "Every team have recurrent tasks to perform" doesn't sound right to me. I'd probably put: "Every team has recurring tasks to perform" - or at least replace the 'have' with a 'has' :-)

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

Thank you very much!

I have change the heading. Now it has has in it. =)

ycmike2• 12 years ago

I really like this notion after reading "The Checklist Manifesto" and seeing how important recurring checklists are.

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

Me too, recurring checklists is a very powerful tool.

A little "easter egg" is the backgrounds that comes after the first image in the header. Everyone who have read "The Checklist Manifesto" will understand. =)

ycmike2• 12 years ago

Haha I noticed that!

alexduggleby• 12 years ago

Looking forward to seeing what the first/final version of this looks like and offers. Definitely need this kind of service a lot. I was thinking about something like this ever since I heard them speaking of a social checklist app on http://techzinglive.com/page/1419/250-tz-discussion-rise-of-... . Actually I would strongly think about adding a way to share and find checklists, maybe even a checklist store for larger checklists (e.g. conference planning) instead of having to come up with every checklist from scratch.

Good luck and endurance!

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

Hey Alex,

Thanks for the feedback.

The very first prototype had a discovery feature where you could publish your own checklist under categories, much like the App store but within the app and for checklists. I decided early on that it would be a version 2 feature, because what good does it make to be able to easily find new checklists if completeing them is not "butter-smoth", another concern is of course that the "store" would be exceptionally empty in the beginning. But the featuer is still in the "future features"-list.

Thanks for the enguragement, it gives energy! =)

nonrecursive• 12 years ago

I created something similar a few years ago: http://openhercules.com/ . It supports reusing lists through an explicit clone. Source is at https://github.com/flyingmachine/openhercules .

josephlord• 12 years ago

If someone wants an existing but offline only checklists app you can try mine: Fast Lists [0]. It includes options for nesting and hiding the already ticked items so it can be used with large lists.

I haven't added synchronisation yet as I'm not sure the return would be worth the time and I'm also concerned about conflict resolution and data loss.

The OP has a picture of a cockpit which would imply a safety critical environment. I would think long and hard before selling my app in that way especially for an online service.

[0] https://itunes.apple.com/app/fast-lists-checklists-for/id481...

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

Your app looks nice, good work.

When it comes to your valid concern about the safety of pilots using a always-online application I agree with you, that would not be very smart, but nowadays there is technical soulutions around this problem [0]. Alsow it is a hint to everyone who have read the book "The checklist manifesto" by Atul Gawande, I recomend it!

[0] http://diveintohtml5.info/offline.html

Edit: Sounded to harsh, not my intention.

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

I'v captured a screencast [0], literally a minute ago, of how app works, it's the worst quality ever but it showcases the idéa and the problem the app solves.

[0] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivw7XEI8xDs

jroes2• 12 years ago

If you like the idea of this sort of thing, you might also check out https://github.com/csquared/checkcheckit. It lets you make checklists in Markdown, execute code in code blocks, and share progress live on the web with your team.

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

I have seen it, and it's nice and a fun idea but for the ordinary man or women, well, I really don't need to say more. =)

jroes2• 12 years ago

Yeah. It works really well on a dev team. We use it in our team all the time for things before we transition them into a fully-automated process.

jesalg• 12 years ago

It should be titled MVC => Minimum Viable Concept

FrejNorling19• 12 years ago

That would have been a more accurate description. I can´t change the title now, the edit button is gone.

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