Apple Sold Twice As Many iPhones As Macs Last Quarter

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/21/apple-sold-twice-as-many-iphones-as-macs-last-quarter/

by vaksel • 17 years ago

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bryanwoods• 17 years ago

This title might have struck me as even more surprising had it read "Apple Sold Half As Many Macs As iPhones Last Quarter."

lutorm• 17 years ago

Yeah, really, shouldn't that be expected? A phone costs much less than a computer and people are not impeded from side-switching by loads of apps that run on a specific OS.

thras• 17 years ago

Not these phones. Recall that you're also signing up for a two-year contract with AT&T. So about $2000 over two years.

jsz0• 17 years ago

"There's no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share. No chance." -- Steve Balmer.

vaksel• 17 years ago

CEOs of competing companies rarely praise the products of their adversaries

potatolicious• 17 years ago

Then stay neutral. Trash-talk is just egg on your face later. There are plenty of neutral ways to deflect that question:

"I think it's an interesting direction for their product, but I'm not convinced that there's a major market there."

A lot less quotable and won't haunt you later.

alaskamiller• 17 years ago

"You can't watch a video and drive a car. We're focused on music." - Steve Jobs on including videos into iPods

"We're not making a phone." - Steve Jobs on iPhone rumors

boredguy82• 17 years ago

Apple has 10.8% of the market share. Blackberry's market share grew by a larger margin than Apple's. Nokia has 41% of the market, followed by rim.

And this is the market share for smart phones, which is itself a subset of all cell usage (12.7% of the cell market). So Apple has 11% of 13% of all cell usage, which is the context of Ballmer's quote. He also talked about it in terms of Apple's original pricing, which certainly was far more prohibitive than current pricing.

cstejerean• 17 years ago

Given that Apple only supports 1 carrier in the US, I think 10.8% of the smart-phone market is a great start. I know a lot of people that would love to buy an iPhone if only it supported T-Mobile (without unlocking) or Verizon/Sprint.

By the way, do you happen to have a link for those market share numbers?

poutine3• 17 years ago

Apple and RIM combined will have an estimated ~%58 of the profits of the ENTIRE mobile handset industry in 2009:

http://www.maclife.com/article/news/apple_responsible_about_...

Have no mistake that Nokia and others are playing catchup.

netsp• 17 years ago

I think that market share is usually a bad way of looking at Apple's numbers.

Macs are only x% of computers, but that means nothing when comparing with Windows or Dell. Apple sells the OS and the hardware. To look at it as market share, you would need to compare it to both OS's and hardware. With hardware, the market share outlook hits more problems. Apple can get a higher margin when it sells say memory then Dell can. Market share is not indicative of much.

Iphones are (not soley) in the category of phones that people buy because they want that phone specifically. They'll switch carriers, delay purchases etc. The majority of phones are sold to consumers that will pick a phone in-store, get the cheapest one, choose flexibly from a range, etc.

That kind of leverage gets you higher margins and better deals with carriers.

Basically, you can't look at market share without looking at margins. Nokia & dell sit at 2%-4% while Apple & RIM sit at around 15% - 20%.

TweedHeads• 17 years ago

A classic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So7qrFO_p44

pieter• 17 years ago

You can follow the conference call here: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/07/21/live-blogging-apple-e...

It's amazing they have $31 billion in cash, that should keep them floating for a while.

TrevorJ3• 17 years ago

I'd love to see some market research about first-time buyers who bought the iPhone and the rates at which they adopt the Mac platform when they upgrade an existing PC Vs. the rates for PC owners who have no Apple products.

Or put another way - I'm wondering if the long term impact of this will be to raise Apple's market share on the desktop as well. That is, after all, one of the biggest advantages to managing the user experience as well as Apple does: strong brand cohesion and increased brand loyalty.

arrrg2• 17 years ago

And I’m wondering whether that matters.

It will be very interesting to see which role Macs play in Apples product lineup ten years from now. Maybe future’s Apple is all about mobile phones. Or not. Or something in between. I really wouldn’t want to bet one way or another.

TrevorJ3• 17 years ago

They have good market penetration in the graphic design field, and that's a sector that will be slow to adopt any sort of cloud-computing or mobile solution for day-to-day work due to the size of the files that are dealt with and the exacting quality standards. I'd wager they will be a player in the desktop hardware side of things at least in that area for a while.

iron_ball• 17 years ago

I buy Windows because it's the platform of choice for most developers. Yes, that's the power of the incumbent, and if I really cared about a better OS I'd work on changing the chicken-to-egg ratio, but in the short term, Windows has more software I want/need.

I plan to get an iPhone for the same reason: it is the current smartphone incumbent. I was satisfied with my Windows Mobile phone, but when my contract is up, I have to go iPhone; anything else, including Android, just won't have the same number and quality of apps.

I strongly wish to be proven wrong about Android, by the way. Show me developer support and apps I want, and I might consider it. Google Maps mashups are all well and good, but is there an Android version of [insert amazing iPhone app a friend will show me tomorrow]? Probably not.

antipax• 17 years ago

Would be interesting to see a comparison of profit over materials and manufacturing for both, taking into account how many of each they've sold.

jemmons• 17 years ago

While they sold twice as many iPhones as they did macs, mac sales are up 4% from the year-ago quarter. That means they sold all those iPhones without cannibalizing mac sales. That's the big news.

Apple Sold Twice As Many iPhones As Macs Last Quarter

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