Ask HN: Fresh out of bootcamp, what next?

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by CoreSet • 13 years ago

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Hello HN. Thanks in advance for the advice!

I am a graduate of a RoR/JS bootcamp that just ended in late November. After graduating I found (part-time) work with a local Javascript developer and now provide basic technical support for one of his larger projects, a CDN for sports videos.

I asked a question a week ago about technical certifications and the HN community very wisely assured me that they weren't very helpful beyond certain specific (and corporate) career tracks.

My question now is: what are some structured projects, assignments, or goals (beyond my own work, which I do have) that I CAN do and feel like I'm moving forward?

I want to keep learning and growing, I'm just not sure where to turn to next, and - beyond my one side-project - don't have many ideas of my own that need building out.

BWStearns2• 13 years ago

I'm in a similar boat at the moment. I've just been applying to developer positions that don't require senior and prefacing my cover letters with the fact that I am in fact very new to professional coding.

As for projects I had a few toy ones that I started to learn specific things, but after I felt I understood the objective the motivation kind of died. I'm now working on an app that my girlfriend wanted for her academic work.

Having someone who actually wants the app and can give input makes it a lot easier to keep going towards an actual finished product than when you're building it because you're supposed to build stuff. Bug your non-technical friends for what they would like to exist/be better.

phaus• 13 years ago

I've just been applying to developer positions that don't require senior and prefacing my cover letters with the fact that I am in fact very new to professional coding.

Maybe I should write a cover letter like that. I've worked in an unrelated tech field for almost a decade and I have never gotten a response for a jr position in the year or so I've been applying for them. I have, however, in spite of the fact that my resume indicates I'm new to programming, gotten a bunch of calls/emails for Sr. positions that am not nearly qualified for.

yizzerin2• 13 years ago

Don't bother pointing out that you're new (that'll be clear from your resume). Say what you've done and tie previous work to that as well.

argonaut• 13 years ago

Side projects that actually get shipped and are potentially HN-able (I refuse to believe you've never had a cool web app idea). Open source libraries for useful functionality for JS/Ruby/Rails. MOOCs (esp. with algorithms). Reimplementing/redesigning already existing open-source libraries (e.g. creating your own JS promises library, node.js router, Sinatra-style framework, JS templating language, etc. etc. etc.).

I would specifically caution against selling yourself short in job applications. Do not call yourself a "junior" software engineer. Call yourself a software engineer. Do not advertise in a cover letter that you are very new to coding. Just focus on what you've done.

BWStearns2• 13 years ago

Fair point. My thought process went that perhaps they do have junior positions but I saw an advertisement for something more senior, that said I do not have more than a few weeks experience in applying for webdev positions and evidence is better than reasoning from ignorance.

CoreSet2• 13 years ago

Thank you so much for the "junior" advice! I have a bad habit of underselling myself. I need to get more in the "this is what I work on and this is what I can build for you" mindset.

yizzerin2• 13 years ago

Do something exciting for you. More than anything, employers want to see you get excited and energized about something. So if there's some really cool problem that you want to work on and you create/help maintain an open source project related to it - that's great. Or make your own app. Whatever: it doesn't really matter, it just matters that you're into it.

CoreSet2• 13 years ago

Definitely good advice. I had a lot of fun yesterday adding some whizz-bang JS features to my personal site, so certainly feel the truth of this.

Any advice for getting started in open source? I always hear there are roles for newbies in even larger projects, but I'm not sure how to attack it all.

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