Israel’s Efforts to Limit Use of Holocaust Terms Raise Free-Speech Questions

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/world/middleeast/israels-efforts-to-limit-use-of-holocaust-terms-raise-free-speech-questions.html?hp&_r=0

by hndl • 13 years ago

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ishener• 13 years ago

Israeli here. this law-suggestion was only preliminary approved. it still has a long way to go until it will be officially a law, and it probably won't make it. the media here criticized this move harshly once it has "discovered" about it. i say discovered because many law-suggestion are discussed by 4-5 parliament members who are present in the knesset in the preliminary stage, and really nobody hears about them or cares until the later stages...

drcube2• 13 years ago

"What I’m asking is, please put away this special situation that has to do with our history."

Bullshit, Nazi. You're demanding, and threatening people with imprisonment and $30,000 fines. And if they don't go to jail, or pay the fines? You're putting the entire government and it's armed forces behind that threat, and people may possibly die or be killed. This isn't about politeness, or decorum, it's about control. You want to control people, and have them kidnapped or worse if they refuse to submit to your will.

Think about that next time you say "there ought to be a law". It isn't the same as saying "people ought to do such and such". Because with the latter, you're just expressing a preference. With the former, you're attempting to stifle, herd and dominate your fellow human beings, and putting the threat of kidnapping and death by armed goons behind that attempt.

andrewcooke• 13 years ago

you make a good point, but adding the word nazi pretty much ruins it.

if you want to win an argument - particularly over issues related to the holocaust - you have to remain polite and avoid abuse like that. there's no alternative. if you don't, you'll lose the argument.

drcube2• 13 years ago

I was provoked. Did you read the article? It's all about Nazis and not invoking their name, enforced by law rather than manners. I'm contrary like that.

So are many others. Expect a Streisand-like increase in Nazi-calling if this law gets passed.

iterationx• 13 years ago

I found the movie "1/3 of the holocaust" to be compelling, might be illegal to watch in your country.

Israel’s Efforts to Limit Use of Holocaust Terms Raise Free-Speech Questions

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