Webkit 3D CSS Transforms: Snow Stack

http://www.satine.org/archives/2009/07/11/snow-stack-is-here/

by mcav • 17 years ago

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pohl4• 17 years ago

This was worth downloading the latest WebKit nightly for. I first tried it in Safari 4.x, and was underwhelmed. I then tried the latest nightly, and was very impressed. This, coupled with hardware acceleration for the 3D transforms, could seriously eat away at the sort of territory owned by flash and silverlight.

DarkShikari• 17 years ago

The unfortunate part of this is exactly as you say--you first tried it in a bleeding-edge version of Safari, and it wasn't good until you updated to the latest nightly build.

That doesn't bode well for performance in other browsers like Firefox--let alone IE.

pohl4• 17 years ago

To clarify, it wasn't performance that left me wanting. It was still a usable Flickr browser. It just didn't live up to the headline until I tried the nightly. In other words: it degraded well, and this is actually a terrific validation of the extensibility built into the CSS spec. This isn't like the old days where you couldn't log into your online banking without IE. So I disagree: it bodes quite well, IMO.

feverishaaron• 17 years ago

I love this cool experimenting that Apple is doing, even though there probably won't ever be widespread real-world use (unless developing specifically for Safari).

pohl4• 17 years ago

Chrome will be getting this too when they update their WebKit tree.

blasdel• 17 years ago

Are you kidding? This will be available on a massive actively-used and well-differentiated install base: every iPhone, Android, and Pre device.

Though it's kind of depressing that it's easier to get people to sign 2-year $2000 mobile contracts to get decent phones than it is to get them to just stop using IE for normal browsing.

robertgaal2• 17 years ago

There's already a W3C standard for this, so I would bet on more widespread adoption in the future.

http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-3d-transforms/

joeyo2• 17 years ago

Works in Chrome too!

(Version 3.0.192.0 on mac, in case you were wondering)

andreyf• 17 years ago

Degrades well in 3.0.192.0 for me, but doesn't actually do the 3d...

Does not degrade well in FF3.5, as all of the pictures end up stacked on top of one another.

joeyo2• 17 years ago

Hm, interesting. In any event it looks the same in Chrome as it does in Safari 4.0.2, to me.

kentosi2• 17 years ago

erm ... sorry if i'm a little behind, but google chrome on a mac ? where did you get that from?

CrazedGeek• 17 years ago

http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/eula_dev.html?dl=mac

mcav• 17 years ago

I've got a related question, by the way:

Would it be possible to create an IE plugin to render a page using WebKit? Has anyone attempted this?

mhansen• 17 years ago

Why?

kentosi2• 17 years ago

For those of us (such as myself) who browse HN at work where IE6 is mandated.

... just as an example.

est• 17 years ago

Maxthon 3, both Trident & webkit core.

http://forum.maxthon.com/viewthread.php?tid=76003

IIRC, Maxthon 2.X has a switch to Gecko feature.

robertgaal2• 17 years ago

I'm doing a project that could use the Webkit 3D abilities that have now been added to the nightly. Finally, yay! How long till this shows up in Safari though? What's the regular release pattern for these kinds of additions?

GHFigs• 17 years ago

According to the site, it already works in Safari on Snow Leopard and on the iPhone. I would expect it to be part of the regular Safari release within the next two months.

Corrado• 17 years ago

Bah, looks like Cooliris to me. :/

calcnerd256• 17 years ago

Is that a problem? Besides, it looks like that's just one application of the new functionality.

henrrrik• 17 years ago

Wow. WebKit is on fire. They're starting to make Mozilla look Microsoftishly slow.

ajtaylor• 17 years ago

Very cool interface! I love the 3D effects.

Webkit 3D CSS Transforms: Snow Stack

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