Google hijacking DNS to sabotage projects like Namecoin?

http://dot-bit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1440&p=7706

by itistoday2 • 13 years ago

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pjscott• 13 years ago

Spoiler: the answer is no. To see the actual rationale, check out the blog post this guy is loudly reacting to:

https://plus.google.com/+WilliamChanPanda/posts/FKot8mghkok

itistoday26• 13 years ago

I did, and sections from that blog post were quoted in the link, and the specific rationale was dissected and questioned.

declan2• 13 years ago

When you fear you're a nail, everything looks like a big scary hammer?

itistoday26• 13 years ago

Yes, even hammers, the small, non-intimidating kind. ;)

(Please keep the discussion to the merits of the points raised.)

declan2• 13 years ago

I'm happy to do so, of course. In cases where the points actually have merit. :)

samworm• 13 years ago

Are Google "hijacking DNS to sabotage projects like Namecoin?" - No. I doubt the people working on this give any thought to Namecoin, the user-base overlap is approximately 0%. They're doing this because they think it will improve performance.

itistoday26• 13 years ago

Your reply seems almost identical to pjscott's, to which I already responded (so my response to you is the same): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6949269

dingaling• 13 years ago

Whilst I can understand Google's desire to parallelise and accelerate DNS resolution, building their own browser-level resolver is a hairy way to do so.

Several projects have attempted to address this problem before ( C-ARES, and Polipo's internal resolver ) but never managed to achieve critical momentum. Might it not have been worth focusing effort there?

Plus, naturally, there's the temptation to use Google's own public DNS servers instead of adhering to the OS-specified resolution order.

itistoday26• 13 years ago

"Hijacking" was poor word choice. I renamed the thread to "Google implementing its own DNS, implications for Namecoin?"

Questions remain though, as to why Google is doing this. The rationale they've provided just doesn't make much sense in light of alternatives that they know about.

itistoday26• 13 years ago

I edited the post with the following comment (in bold at the bottom), as I did not notice the timestamp on the post, nor did anyone else bring it to my attention:

EDIT (December 22, 2013 1:24PM EST): Actually, I made a mistake in failing to notice the timestamp of the post. It crossed my news feed yesterday, and I mistakenly assumed that it was news. In March of 2012 Google could not have known about DNSNMC specifically, but they could have known about Namecoin and [other DNS projects](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6950592). Therefore, I take back my accusations against Google, apologize for them, and withhold judgement until I learn what their current-day plans are on this. If anyone knows off the top of their heads whether they are still planning on going in this direction, please comment below!

Google hijacking DNS to sabotage projects like Namecoin?

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