ThomsonReuters: Your hiring manager is a jerk. There is said it.

http://pricees.github.io/golang/2013/07/26/one-hundred-and-eighty-thousand-reasons-to-dislike-reuters/

by pricees • 13 years ago

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Not entirely sure why the person who wrote this is so put out. They wanted a job and they didn't get that job. Things change. It can be frustrating, but get over it. You didn't get the job you wanted.

I also think it's pretty arrogant to assume that any hiring manager is going to want to or be able to give you the information as to why the offer was rescinded. If anything, I'd probably train my hiring managers to not tell people why they weren't hired. Saying "You weren't hired because of xxxx" seems like a way of getting into an argument or giving people enough information to start legal proceedings.

Given the tone of the article, and the fact that you went so public with your non-hiring, I'm going to assume Reuters dodged a bullet with this one. Did you tell Reuters you were going to publish their private emails to you? Did you give them any opportunity to reply?

Yeah - After reading what you wrote there, I wouldn't hire you either.

piqufoh• 13 years ago

Being told you've got the job, reasonably asking to postpone a final decision for a few days - and then being dropped by a single line email would be pretty frustrating.

I find it sad that HR are often too lazy / too scared to offer candidates good feedback - I make an effort to get back to each applicant with feedback proportional to the time they seem to have spent on their application.

hedgew• 13 years ago

1. Additional thinking time was not explicitly asked for. "While I an leaning heavily towards Reuters, as a matter of professional courtesy, I told another firm I would listen to their offer." - does not count.

2. Additional thinking time was not explicitly promised.

Lesson: Improve clarity of communications.

blisterpeanuts• 13 years ago

Several red flags popped up for me while I read this blog. First, $90/hour to "learn Google Go"? For that kind of money I'd expect them to hire an expert, not a newbie.

And 100% remote? Sweet! A little too sweet, actually. Something sounds fishy about this.

When a job offer sounds too good to be true, it often is, in my experience. Without a signed contract, words are just words. Yes, it's annoying and humiliating, but it happens all the time in business. Welcome to the real world.

I would advise the applicant to put this behind him and move on. Nothing good can come of going public with a rant like this. You'd be surprised at how such actions can come back to haunt you.

mathattack2• 13 years ago

"I would advise the applicant to put this behind him and move on. Nothing good can come of going public with a rant like this. You'd be surprised at how such actions can come back to haunt you."

This is the wisest thing I've read about this post. TR won't retrain their entire management team because of any angry blogger. Big companies don't operate like that. But an angry blogger may find the next interview a little harder to come by. Would you or I ever want to interview someone who publicly lashed out at a prior interviewer?

skaragianis• 13 years ago

I'll always choose an enthusiastic candidate over an ambivalent one. If its a good match you don't need or want a week to compare alternatives. Sounds like it's just another job; you shouldn't be so upset.

dsschnau• 13 years ago

The grammar in this email exchange is atrocious.

mathattack2• 13 years ago

If you are working as an external contractor, it isn't done until it's signed. This isn't Thompson Reuters hiring you as a permanent employee, it's them hiring you versus someone from a bodyshop.

Without knowing their side of the story, it does seem like a poor move on their part. But.... I've seen situations where people have told firms, "You are my first choice" only to say, "I need some time to think about it" after receiving the offer. It definitely ticks off the hiring manager, who then thinks they misread the enthusiasm, and their offer is being shopped. Could something like that have happened here?

pricees2• 13 years ago

Certainly it could have been. However, I asked the hiring manager for 5 days and he said that isn't a problem. If he had second thoughts about this, he could have communicated this to me. Again, its not worth dragging out, just a warning to others, as you said: it aint a done deal till its signed.

icedchai• 13 years ago

OP sounds illiterate. I wouldn't hire him, either.

pricees2• 13 years ago

Update: I am pulling the blog posting down, after consideration to what blisterpeanuts advised. Thanks to those of you who gave constructive feedback.

ThomsonReuters: Your hiring manager is a jerk. There is said it.

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