Ć Programming Language - Compile C# subset to C, Java, C#, JS, AS, Perl and D

http://cito.sourceforge.net/

by gjndrtjh • 13 years ago

102 70 13 years ago

cito.sourceforge.net

chris_wot5• 13 years ago

What was the need for this?

DenisM3• 13 years ago

Second statement from the article:

Ć is a new language, aimed at crafting portable programming libraries, with syntax akin to C#

chris_wot5• 13 years ago

That's the purpose, is there really such a need?

DenisM3• 13 years ago

That's awesome. I remember I spent some time rewriting the code I had from C# into Java and wishing there was a way for me to just write it once and reuse in multiple places. Just so that I do not have to patch multiple locations as I add features.

Maybe Objective C for the next iteration? :)

chipsy• 13 years ago

I really like this concept. It would make a good counterpart to Haxe.

Moto7451• 13 years ago

This is great. Glad to see Perl support as I'm working in both these days. I have a C# DLL I'm planning on porting and I think I'll give this a whirl. If it can do a good port I'll be very impressed.

aaronbrethorst• 13 years ago

Pronunciation: http://www.asusilc.net/scr101/les1/s1glas.htm

"ch or tch as in: church, fetch, pronounced softer than the English sound"

dotemacs• 13 years ago

I'd say it's more like 'ci' (sounds closer to 'ty') in Italian 'ciao' and less like 'ch' in 'change'.

groovy2shoes• 13 years ago

In American English (and perhaps other dialects), Italian 'ciao' is an allophone with English 'chow'. (Really two allophones, 'ch' and 'ow'). Most Americans won't be able to hear a difference.

AlexanderDhoore• 13 years ago

Great, another programming language we can't google!

Please rename it to Membranous language.

jlgreco• 13 years ago

Or for that matter, type. At least C♯ has "C#".

Maybe we can use C' ?

danabramov3• 13 years ago

At least in OS X, you can type Ć by holding C and pressing 2:

http://i.imgur.com/6xCSVW5.png

gjndrtjh6• 13 years ago

Alternative names for Ć are "ci" and "cito".

iso8859-12• 13 years ago

Who's "we"? Your OS only supports 7-bit ASCII or what?

https://www.google.com/search?q=%C4%86%20programming%20langu...

WayneDB3• 13 years ago

Yeah, but most people in the US will be too lazy to type that character when writing about it.

Also, look at the author's own examples. They already have to resort to calling it "ci" in code and on the command line (and in URLs).

Demagog• 13 years ago

It's great name. Of course if you come from Poland or other Central Europe Country. Then all you need is type ALT + c. In Polish keyboard mode.

ycamel• 13 years ago

Why not support floating point number type?

gjndrtjh6• 13 years ago

I asked the language creator. Float, double, short types are going to be added within 1 month. 64 bit integers are not possible because Javascript doesn't have them.

gjndrtjh6• 13 years ago

Try: http://pastebin.com/GHYh6hUX

trailfox• 13 years ago

Nice idea, but please give it a name that makes the language easy to discuss and search for.

There's no way I'm going to work on Monday and discussing: 'did you see that new language that I have no idea how it's pronounced that was on HN?'

iso8859-12• 13 years ago

Almost all other languages have ASCII names. How do you think South Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, etc refer to them? They figured it out, just like you would, if you wanted to.

pietro• 13 years ago

ASCII may be American in origin, but it's become the global standard, and it's all we have in common. Even Japanese keyboards have ASCII character input.

WayneDB3• 13 years ago

The name of something makes a big difference in the USA though. If it sounds ridiculous or has a non-obvious pronunciation, people won't take it seriously.

Rationalize all you want...the issue makes it a non-starter for many people.

gjndrtjh6• 13 years ago

"ci" or "cito". As in http://cito.sourceforge.net

nnq3• 13 years ago

Great idea, but why another new language? Why not just pick a subset of C#? (or Java, or D, but subjectively speaking, C# is the most "friendly" language from that list)

ygra2• 13 years ago

It is a subset of C#. And giving that subset a name is much easier than talking about »that subset of C# that compiles cleanly to Java, D, Perl and C«.

Trufa• 13 years ago

Except when the name is Ć.

nnq3• 13 years ago

Great then ...though even C#-- (ala http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C--) would be better than using a non-English character/accent

dsego• 13 years ago

Time to start working on Č I guess.

marssaxman• 13 years ago

We've all got a language in our back pocket, haven't we?

My first thought on seeing this name was that I ought to rename my project "Ç".

profquail2• 13 years ago

This is a really interesting project. However...

It's licensed under GPLv3 -- in my experience, that's an instant turnoff for most .NET (C#/F#/VB.NET) developers. If you changed the license to something like Apache 2.0, I think you'd get much more interest; not only new users, but new contributors too.

3825• 13 years ago

What's wrong with GPLv3? I thought the only thing that changed from v2 was preventing tivotization?

danabramov3• 13 years ago

I think he means commercial use in closed-source projects. So it's not v2 vs v3, but GPL vs Apache or MIT.

wes-exp• 13 years ago

GPL (2 and 3) is completely hostile to commercial (i.e. proprietary) use. In a big middle finger to business, v2 even describes a hypothetical businessperson as "Ty Coon, President of Vice".

stephth3• 13 years ago

Does it matter here from a user standpoint? The compiler is strictly licensed but the user's work - Ć code and generated code - shouldn't be tied to any predefined license, or am I missing something?

fauigerzigerk• 13 years ago

If I ever create a programming language, I will call it either ♫ (pronounced music) or . (pronounced dot).

That's one thing brainfuck didn't get right. Even they couldn't predict how incredibly stupid programming language naming would become :)

piokuc• 13 years ago

Does it do garbage collecting in all the target languages? The question is mainly about C, cause I can imagine it can rely on native garbage collector when targeting Java, Perl, etc.

gjndrtjh6• 13 years ago

It only has manual memory management. No GC.

But if you don't target C, you can just skip using "delete".

stephth3• 13 years ago

Right, from the documentation (albeit hidden in the Arrays section):

Since there is no garbage collection in C, you must free the dynamically allocated array with delete. delete translates to C as free and nothing in other (garbage-collecting) languages.

kevingadd• 13 years ago

See also the C~ language that the author of Scintilla created for the purpose of building a retargetable text editor component:

http://www.scintilla.org/SWPortability.html

He wrote his text editor component in C~, then compiled it down to C++, Java and C#. Kind of interesting - I actually used SinkWorld in a product once.

pimpl• 13 years ago

I guess I’m of the very few ones in this thread who know how to pronounce this name :D

Dewie3• 13 years ago

If they just wanted the name to be a variation of 'C', they could have called it 'Ç', since I'm guessing that most people can type that easily with their keyboards.

Ć Programming Language - Compile C# subset to C, Java, C#, JS, AS, Perl and D

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