Kickstarter accepts anti-gravity device campaign

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1887069385/a-silent-anti-gravity-device-can-now-lift-99-of-it?ref=category

by davidgerard • 13 years ago

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minimaxir• 13 years ago

I like his answer to the first question of the FAQ:

What evidence do you have that this actually works even though it defies the laws of physics?

"You are going to have to spend some time figuring what I mean."

oms1005• 13 years ago

There is a goal of $15000, but only 400 slots of $25 available, which means best case scenario, he will be $5000 short...

VikingCoder• 13 years ago

Nice. Maybe he's doing a research project on how people fund things that are ridiculous, but doesn't want the possibility of accidentally really taking money from anyone.

Or maybe he's SO BAD AT MATH that he didn't realize.

lancefisher• 13 years ago

400 slots of $25 or more.

VLM3• 13 years ago

You just need to apply heat to the top of the piggy bank while keeping the bottom cold. Its all in the theory.

elisee• 13 years ago

It's weird indeed but note that, as a backer, you are free not to select a reward, no matter how much you contribute.

outside1234• 13 years ago

Kickstarter is probably hasn't finished reading his description. I could see that taking days.

runn1ng• 13 years ago

Maybe I can start a project "A simple angle trisection" or something like that.

strangestchild2• 13 years ago

The problem has already been solved: http://goo.gl/NLdou

croddin• 13 years ago

Not the compass and straightedge construction. It has been proven impossible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angle_trisection

YoukaiCountry• 13 years ago

I honestly want to know, who is his target audience? Does all of that talking in circles he does in his description really sound like science to an absolute layperson? More importantly, does he believe what he is saying? We'll probably never get the answers.

VLM3• 13 years ago

Whats odd about it is most psuedo-science involves magnets and conspiracy theories and this has neither. I can see a new fresh startup trying one at a time, but trying to innovate by giving it a go without both, seems a bit over ambitious. He really needs to add magnets and the CIA if he wants other alternative scientists to take him seriously.

He does have luminiferous aether, which is a plus.

Also don't waste your time on reverse image searches, I didn't find anything interesting.

On the other hand he is playing games with heat and calorimetry is notorious both semi-professionally and in psuedoscience land as being some hard to interpret stuff. So that is semi-traditional.

If you google him you'll find his G+ which has photos one of which is a scan of some UFO book.

KillerChihuahua• 13 years ago

Thank you for this analysis. "no magnets... no conspiracy theories". Priceless.

untog• 13 years ago

To be fair, he isn't selling the device. He's basically asking for funding for an experiment. Why should he be removed from Kickstarter? If someone wants to throw their money down that hole they should be free to.

pekk• 13 years ago

I'mma start a breathmint birth control kickstarter.

They'll be made with honey and you won't have any babies if you donate $25 or more.

thaumaturgy• 13 years ago

I just saw a homeopathic asthma rescue inhaler on the shelves of the local Walgreens the other day.

So, you might as well do it. Looks like you'd be able to get the big retailers to sell it for you.

davidgerard5• 13 years ago

Homeopathic asthma rescue?!

D-:

Photograph that and spread the photo far and wide. I'm asthmatic and I'm horrified.

davidgerard5• 13 years ago

Because it's a really, really obvious scam. That or just plain lunacy, but I feel a certain reluctance to assume good faith when he's asking people for actual money rather than even just putting up something coherent on arXiv, not even peer review.

davidgerard5• 13 years ago

Sorry, I must correct myself: he's got a piece up not on arXiv, but on viXra. http://vixra.org/abs/0907.0018 viXra also has a bloglike comments section below the abstract, where the author has been responding.

CamperBob2• 13 years ago

Reported to Kickstarter as "Miscategorized: Comics"

kailuowang• 13 years ago

I am not sure how serious Kickstarter is in regards of its review process. I submitted a project half a year ago - the website(http://klekr.com) was designed to help amateur photographers expand art taste by showing them photos taken by their favorite photographers as well as photos liked by their favorite photographers. A rep from Kickstarter rejected it claiming it's not a creativity project which Kickstarter is trying to focus on.

Now this antigrativity. Really? I mean really?

davidgerard5• 13 years ago

Well, it certainly shows creativity.

larrydag• 13 years ago

Is it me or is it just a metallic hot air balloon?

spencerbeepboop• 13 years ago

I concur. But it could be interesting to have hot-air balloon technology innovated.

fusiongyro• 13 years ago

He has a FAQ entry about that:

> With my device I bring the "cold parcel of air outside the balloon" inside my device.... The pressure difference between the the two parcels provides the force that lifts my device. By being able to bring the cold parcel of air inside my device two advantages are obtained over the hot air balloon. First, my device is not restricted to only moving in the atmosphere as is the hot air balloon.... Second, I am able to control how cold the cold parcel of air can get. Thus a greater pressure difference can be obtained which will in turn provide a much greater upward force.

Sounds to me like he's essentially hooking up a fan to a sail boat like in a Looney Tunes cartoon.

aosmith• 13 years ago

I think he's trying to describe a pulse jet with an external heat / fuel source?

briholt• 13 years ago

I feel like the statement:

"Neither Einstein's fundamental premise that mass can warp space nor Newton's fundamental premise that mass can attract other mass can comprehend this easily repeatable table top experiment."

is the crazy person way of saying:

"This experiment disproves classical mechanics and relativity."

I'd be more apt to believe the crazy assertion if it weren't worded crazily.

fcaf• 13 years ago

Hypothesis: The thermoelectric effect is screwing with his force sensor.

davidgerard5• 13 years ago

Spotted by antfarmer12 on Reddit /r/skeptic: http://www.reddit.com/r/skeptic/comments/1ch8zd/a_kickstarte...

ChuckMcM• 13 years ago

I hope he publishes his results in the Journal of Irreproducible Results [1]

[1] http://www.jir.com/

Tekker• 13 years ago

I don't see how this is "anti-gravity" - making something that floats isn't necessarily anti-gravity. He wants to create a microversion of a weather system, so I don't see how this is going to work beyond being a few cms over the ground.

davidklemke• 13 years ago

Did a little bit of Googling about the person behind the Kickstarter and came across this: http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2010/06/08/gravity-shmavity...

Considering he couldn't (or wouldn't) even publish his results to arXiv makes me very sceptical about the merits behind his theory.

Kickstarter accepts anti-gravity device campaign

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