Poll: OS X users, what is your favorite release?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5540995

by kunai • 13 years ago

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gee_totes• 13 years ago

I'm still running 10.4! True, I miss out on modern browsers (stuck on Firefox 3), and can't watch Netflix (Silverlight updates crash the browser), but at least I don't have do deal with the silly Mac App store!

coldtea2• 13 years ago

Yes, that'd will show them!

This attitude reminds me of Mel Gilbson's house in "Conspiracy Theory" -- with locks on the fridge and on the food containers inside it and all.

Not to mention that even in Mountain Lion you don't have to "deal with the silly Mac App Store" if you don't want to. Just use it to get the core OS updates, and download all your apps from their original sources.

mtinkerhess2• 13 years ago

I think gee_totes was probably being humorous.

craino• 13 years ago

I have Lion installed. I have a copy of Snow Leopard and Mountain Lion sitting around. Lion is pretty solid.

tehprofessor• 13 years ago

Due to the varying size of the releases; it's hard to compare them to each other.

While a buggy turd, 10.0, was amazing at the time and blew windows out of the water. It was phenomenal by comparison.

In the end I ended up voting for 10.8 because it works damn well-- was a painless upgrade process, even with all my dev tool installed. That has definitely not always been the case.

veidr• 13 years ago

It's a hard question, because it is hard to remember everything we need to remember to judge older releases in their context.

For instance, at the Cupertino Apple Store opening event that happened to be around the launch of Mac OS X 10.2 ('Jaguar') I remember saying to Steve Jobs, rather snarkily, 'It's finally really good.'[1] That's because it felt like we had finally turned a corner and gotten an OS that wasn't this shiny, 'lickable' half-finished proof-of-concept draft of an operating system. It proved we weren't insane for buying into Apple's lofty promised and developing for Mac OS X. So I probably loved that release the most. But of course, wouldn't run it today even if it ran on modern hardware.

But 10.6 is also well-loved, as the numbers above show. It is rock-solid stable, and I still run my OS X-based servers on 10.6 (in VMWare VMs). Company git servers, non-public facing IMAP archive servers, customer support systems, whatnot... all run 10.6.8, and have for years.

As an end user (by which I mean software developer, mostly Mac, with some iOS and web stuff) I run 10.8, but I still find it really irritating and like 10.7 better. There's so much annoying crap in 10.8, both showstopping bugs and UI changes aimed at the lower-knowledge average-Walmart-shopper tier of computer user, that it gets in my way more than it helps me.

But we've already discussed that stuff on this forum many times[2], so I won't rehash it here. I'll just say that so far, 10.8 has made me love it less, not more, than 10.7, so that is what I picked above. (And currently, it looks like I am the only one to have done so.)

Also, a real lion would kick a mountain lion's ass.

[1]: Jobs handled my snarky comment the same impressive way he used to handle irate shareholders at the annual meeting: he acknlowedged but implicit criticism but didn't validate it, he accepted and accentuated the praise, and then he invited the people listening to him to join him in feeling good about all the awesome things Apple was doing.

He looked at me and said, 'You know what? You're right, it is finally really good.' He glanced around to include the other people standing around us in the conversation. 'Maybe we should use that in the ads. Mac OS X 10.2: it's FINALLY really good.' Polite laughter ensued, and then he went on to describe a couple of his favorite new features and how they were going to change the world.

[2]: e.g, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5346808

phyalow• 13 years ago

10.4 - Easily, everything "just worked", UI was snappy finder didnt take 2 seconds to open a new Window. It seems with every major release things get slower (even with new hardware and fresh installs).

kunai• 13 years ago

I would also commend 10.4 for being at the sweet spot of UI chrome. Just enough to keep things separated from the bland and boring Linux and Windows of those days, but not over-the-top like it was in previous releases.

The UI in 10.8 is far too flat for my tastes. In this era of advanced graphical processing and processing, I would expect the trend to go the opposite way.

Oh well; guess we have to do what Apple tells us we want; otherwise we'd have to go to Linux and break compatibility with a LOT of apps.

guavaroo• 13 years ago

10.6

sophacles• 13 years ago

I was very sad when they took away my workspaces as a grid. I used the crap out of that concept, but for some reason they decided I would work better with a linear organization, which is just annoying as fuck and not at all true. I'm a visual/spatial thinker, things just belong "below" or "above" or whatever. I've been working this way since my first linux install in 1998, and until Lion my mac was OK with me working that way too.

I guess apple knows best though. Thanks for making it easier for me despite the part where it seems harder. You sure do know so much! /sarcasm on that last paragraph.

Poll: OS X users, what is your favorite release?

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