Making scaling a money issue vs. a time issue?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48380

by nameless • 19 years ago

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As a one man band, I've been looking at some Virtual Private Servers to try and make low level scalability issues more of a money issue rather than a time issue. I've looked at thegridlayer.com and mediatemple's dv packages.

So far I like mediatemple because it comes with a control panel, Virtuozzo, etc. thegridlayer's solutions seem to require more setup and come with none of these features out of the gate.

Is there a better VPS provider with more timesaving features and reliability or an easier way to get a good, quick scaling server?

Xichekolas• 19 years ago

Can't claim to have actually used them, but I have kept an eye on slicehost ... might be worth a look anyway.

gmlk• 19 years ago

I'm using slicehost and I'm loving it! :)

http://slicehost.com

nameless5• 19 years ago

Those guys are cheap. Kinda scares me a bit that they say they've built everything themselves. How is the control panel? Is there any way to view the real time statistics (cpu, database connections, etc) on your server?

wmf• 19 years ago

Are you talking about scaling from 1/10 of a server to 1 server, or from 1 to 10 servers, or from 10 to 1000 servers?

I was turned off by 3Tera/TheGridLayer because their sites are all marketing, no tech. But I just discovered the docs (http://doc.3tera.net/AppLogic2/WebHome.html), so now it's possible to size up their system without some salesperson sizing up my wallet first.

TGL's prices for individual VPSes do not look competitive and the starting price of $4000/month for a virtual datacenter is pretty spicy.

Previous VPS discussion: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43949 Most providers do not mention scalability or upgrades on their sites, so maybe it is worth paying more to MT for scalability.

nameless5• 19 years ago

I'm talking about starting with 1 small server and scaling it up with ram and cpu, then possibly needing to add a db server. That's about as far into the future as I'd like to look.

gscott• 19 years ago

I decided to host one of my applications, a live chat service for 'replicated' websites on GoDaddy.com of all places, before you laugh it has really worked out better then I would have imagined. I already had the code working well under load with stored procedures and everything else optimized. It is not under active development so the terrible mssql interface didn't bother me too much. I have 2000 paying customers and no problems. I pay $5 a month for the best shared hosting ever.

nameless5• 19 years ago

I've been analyzing slicehost and they look great, but it looks like I'll have to do too much of the server admin myself, including security. Plus, they are currently back ordered unless you prepay. Says alot for them though that they refuse customers due to server loads.

MediaTemple's dv offering seems to be 'dedicated light' in that apache, php, mysql etc are preinstalled. Also MT has a security update option where they updated tested versions of apps as they come out.

Looks like that could take alot of server admin work off my hands, which is what I'm looking for.

Anyone else have an easier option?

staunch• 19 years ago

I would totally avoid any special "grid" crap. That stuff is snake oil. I'd also avoid VPS too, since the price of fully dedicated servers is so low these days. Less than $100/mo for a machine you can call your own.

I think ServerBeach has a better deal than all the other sites mentioned here. I've been super happy with them (and a couple friends who signed up have as well). They do offer cPanel and Plesk and I think give you Webmin by default. I don't use that stuff myself though.

(If you sign up for Serverbeach you can use my referral # 7XYHDMBU8A for $100 credit and I so get credit too http://www.serverbeach.com/catalog/cust_ref_landing_new.php?... )

Making scaling a money issue vs. a time issue?

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