US launches new strikes on Iran

https://www.ft.com/content/21131ff4-35e1-4e5c-b827-1e07c9153e8e

by JumpCrisscross • 3 months ago

30 26 3 months ago

lschueller• 3 months ago

Oil price below 100 USD, some possible route towards negiotiations, potential for an exit out of wasteful military operations.. Sure, start all over again and go back to square 1. Or am I missing something here? Like a big picture, which makes a strike at this moment in time inevitable?

MarkusQ3• 3 months ago

"Iran launched missiles, drones and small-boat attacks at U.S. warships near the Strait of Hormuz, and that the U.S. responded by intercepting the threats and striking Iranian military sites responsible for the attacks."

Iran attacked, the US blocked and countered, attacking the source of the attacks.

cosmicgadget5• 3 months ago

Per centcom:

“Iranian forces launched multiple missiles, drones and small boats as USS Truxtun (DDG 103), USS Rafael Peralta (DDG 115), and USS Mason (DDG 87) transited the international sea passage. No U.S. assets were struck.”

Step 1 appears to have been US ships entering the strait. Iran claims they fired on a tanker but who's to say.

3eb7988a1663• 3 months ago

During the short stint of "Project Freedom", the US claimed to have attacked seven Iranian ships. Which is still not the first time the US has attacked Iran during a negotiation or ceasefire.

Swenrekcah2• 3 months ago

They simply want chaos. This distracts from their corruption and authoritarian actions, it enables grift and market manipulation, it worsens conditions in other western countries which benefits them, oil price being high benefits their friend Putin, the list is long and grim.

uxp100• 3 months ago

I also believe some in the administration want chaos. But also consider that Iran is legitimately hard to negotiate with and the negotiators have no experience with highly technical negotiations around nuclear enrichment. Like, I don’t think Trump wants chaos, actually.

grafmax• 3 months ago

It also harms US' Asian allies, which makes them more dependent on US energy, increasing US leverage to push them toward proxy war with China. Very similar to the situation in Europe!

nradov• 3 months ago

There was no real route towards negotiations. The two sides remained quite far apart on issues they considered non-negotiable, and neither side is desperate enough yet to make major concessions.

The US strikes on Iran were paused temporarily because Kuwait and Saudi Arabia refused permission to use their bases for that purpose. Now permission to use those bases has been secured (probably in exchange for protection guarantees and other political concessions) so the strikes can resume.

(I'm not claiming that any of this is a good idea, just explaining the state of affairs.)

tenuousemphasis• 3 months ago

Think of it less like a consistent foreign policy and more like the biggest insider trading grift in American history.

dzhiurgis• 3 months ago

Or am I missing something here

Iran is a terrorist state

Hasbaranews• 3 months ago

Why are you being downvoted

jdlshore• 3 months ago

I think what you’re missing is there was never any real progress.

* Oil futures (not spot price) have been completely detached from reality, with credible evidence of corrupt insiders making money by front-running Trump’s social media posts

* Negotiations never went anywhere; despite Trump’s social media claims (see point 1), they barely even got to the negotiation table

* There is no potential for an exit that doesn’t leave us worse off than where we started, because Iran is control of whether the conflict continues, not the US, and it’s in their best interest to continue the conflict until they get major concessions (like permanent ability to tax the straight)

In short, the Trump administration is a clown show whose only really competence is corruption.

jfengel• 3 months ago

To be fair, they are extremely competent at that.

paulpauper• 3 months ago

yeah, the strait will remain closed/blockaded until 2028 after election

gnabgib• 3 months ago

Seems to have had a few titles currently: Middle East war: US and Iran clash in Strait of Hormuz as ceasefire comes under strain

https://archive.is/arpYH

cosmicgadget5• 3 months ago

China talks going well!

US launches new strikes on Iran

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