The German state (Schleswig-Holstein) trying to break free from Microsoft

https://www.ft.com/content/95bd87c8-a112-49a5-9b80-c280a6bb4283

by throwaway2037 • 4 months ago

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barrkel• 4 months ago

I think I've been reading about federal Länder breaking up with Microsoft for the past 15 years.

(Actually 15 years is mentioned in the article now that I scanned it)

hulitu2• 4 months ago

a) Linux does not pay as good as Microsoft.

b) we live in a democracy

pjmlp4• 4 months ago

Microsoft Office, that is.

They will keep using everything else that is touched by Microsoft.

Github, Typescript, Windows, Active Directory, Open AI servers on Azure, Visual Studio, possibly contractors using .NET, npm infrastructure,...

4gotunameagain• 4 months ago

One step at a time from disentangling from a former ally in decline.

If only now Germany would decouple from the influence of Israel as well..

pjmlp4• 4 months ago

Unfortunately all key FOSS projects depend on former ally companies money, and I don't imagine European replacements for them.

bradley132• 4 months ago

There is an increasing movement to find European or OSS solutions. GitHub can be replaced by GitLab. Azure by any of a number of European cloud services. Some are more difficult, but Visual Studio can at least be replaced by IntelliJ.

I don't understand why you name things like Typescript. Microsoft may have created it, but afaik they do not assert ownership. You can certainly write Typescript in non-MS IDEs.

pjmlp4• 4 months ago

How much Visual Studio can be replaced by InteliJ, depends on the underlying programming stack.

If it is to write Windows games in C++ that are then consumed in Linux via Proton, is a kind of Phyrric independence.

Who pumps the money into the Typescript team, and calls the shots on its evolution?

Naturally you can have your own compiler and trail behind its development, with the sponsorship of the likes of Vercel or Anthropic.

adammarples• 4 months ago

No, they are moving to Linux. Read TFA.

pjmlp4• 4 months ago

Still thinking about it,

https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/Schleswig-Holstein-Fast-80-...

Lets see how it turns out, NRW had SuSE powered terminals in a few city libraries a decade ago, which are nowadays running Windows in kiosk mode.

vovavili• 4 months ago

The article is paywalled.

axiologist• 4 months ago

https://archive.ph/nWRiH

bradley132• 4 months ago

They have been trying to switch to Linux and LibreOffice for years now. The brakes were applied, not so much for technical reasons, but more because the "right" decision makers were wined and dined by Microsoft. The last thing MS wants is a successful precedent showing that their products are not necessary for government.

Also, you really have to make a clean break. Users are comfortable with what they know. If you leave the door open to use the old-and-familiar, they will fight changing to the new. Train them on LibreOffice and then take away any and all access to MS Office.

faangguyindia• 4 months ago

I work in india, most village panchayats are running Ubuntu without any issues and we don't pay anyone any money.

hulitu2• 4 months ago

Third world country. We, in first world country, are not dependendent of Ubuntu. We are supported by Microsoft. (see Limux). /s

The German state (Schleswig-Holstein) trying to break free from Microsoft

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