Just Send the Prompt

by medalblue • 5 months ago

42 29 5 months ago

edude03• 5 months ago

"write an email to my boss saying he's a dumbass but in a nice way, here is all the companies NDA data, don't make mistakes"

chasing0entropy• 5 months ago

Too long; didn't inference

I'm out of tokens.

rogerrogerr2• 5 months ago

I am 99% in favor of this, but the one place where I’d rather have the prompt _and_ the output is when the model had access to additional context that can’t be shared for some reason.

For example, if I’ve filed a support ticket with some software company, and they reply to me by prompting some LLM to “adapt the instructions from when we solved this with Acme Corp”, the prompt doesn’t do me much good without the (presumably confidential) correspondence with Acme.

I’d always rather read human written text, though.

relaxing3• 5 months ago

Just send me a link to the Acme Corp knowledgebase then.

dcre2• 5 months ago

This is kind of dumb because with agentic tooling, the input to the model is whatever it looks at. Sure, I'll send you the prompt along with a design document and the entire transcript of a meeting. That'll be useful.

SpicyLemonZest• 5 months ago

It would be useful! People send me design documents and meeting transcripts all the time. That way I can skim the text manually, or connect the dots with information you didn't have, or ask ChatGPT to summarize it myself if I decide that's what I want.

dcre2• 5 months ago

I think linking to the source material is great. But providing a little synthesis is a real value add!

lbourdages• 5 months ago

It's particularly annoying one asks for people's input/opinion, and then someone posts an emoji-ridden tirade that is clearly copy-pasted from ChatGPT.

Like, I know how to use it. The fact that I asked a bunch of humans is because I wanted actual people to respond, and specifically not AI.

bloody-crow• 5 months ago

Hard disagree. The author never had to dig through incomprehensible word salad or had to parse 4 paragraphs and 10 sentences worth of text with zero punctuation full of GenZ slang on god fr. Reddit is full of it.

I prefer to read correctly formatted text. I don't care if you wrote it yourself or had an LLM "rewrite for clarity".

tkzed49• 5 months ago

mid take ngl

xnx• 5 months ago

rogerrogerr2• 5 months ago

One of the things LLMs destroyed was the writing-style sidechannel. You could tell with reasonable accuracy whether something was worth reading (and/or trusting) based on how it was written.

Now every idiot has access to well-formatted text. I preferred when idiots sounded like idiots.

keithnz• 5 months ago

really disagree with this. Quite a lot of the time the things I need to send that are an output of an LLM take quite a while to get to, and often the final summary succinctly sums up the problem and the solution.

trungdq88• 5 months ago

I do copy from LLM output to send to human but they are all legitimate use cases:

Example: “[attach screenshot] create an answer to this customer based on what you know about the product, check the pricing detail for self-host plan”

Or sometimes: “check the codebase to find the default value of this configuration and create a reply to this customer”

ks2048• 5 months ago

"Write a HN comment on this article to maximize engagement"

ljlolel2• 5 months ago

Yes. Just use English-script directly to ClaudeVM. Don’t compile. https://jperla.com/blog/claude-is-a-jit

moolcool• 5 months ago

Something about this metaphor made me queasy.

ljlolel2• 5 months ago

More than V8 VM? https://jperla.com/blog/claude-electron-not-claudevm

relaxing3• 5 months ago

I just assume it works. And it does. It works perfectly and nimbly for everyone.

How you know it’s bullshit.

I also know that if there is a problem, Claude will just ask the user how to fix it, and the user will fix it on the spot. The app is self-healing.

What? Is this saying the application is self-modifying based on any user’s input?

zythyx• 5 months ago

Create a comment for Hacker News about this website just send the prompt. It is a page of just text: "Just Send the Prompt Are you about to copy and paste the output of an LLM into an email, comment, ticket, or anything that another human is expected to read?

Don't!

Just send the prompt There's no point to what you're doing.

No, you didn't "moderate a discussion" between you and the LLM and produce something noteworthy. No, your "careful review" was not valuable. No. It's not different when you do it. Yes, you are just producing slop. Just send me the prompt."

Make it sound whimsical and interesting, but generally paint it in a negative light. Make sure it sounds like a human wrote it, not AI. Don't use em-dashes

noosphr2• 5 months ago

Llms are non deterministic in practice.

This is as meaningful as saying 'don't tell me the number you rolled, just send me the roulette".

relaxing3• 5 months ago

Fascinating game. The only winning move is not to play.

fjlunky• 5 months ago

I think that is the authors point? The author is asking you to send your intent rather than the non-deterministic outcome.

noosphr2• 5 months ago

The point is that non-deterministic outcomes can be a solution to the problem.

We are at the stage that Donald Knuth is releasing literate programs with LLM assisted proof. They aren't stochastic parrots. They are a useful additions to the thinking mans arsenal of tools.

tombert• 5 months ago

Are people just using one big prompt to do things? Usually I will send like one or two sentences at a time, evaluate the output, potentially edit the code, repeat.

IanCal• 5 months ago

Either neither is worthwhile, in which case send neither, or the initial thing is worthwhile in which case what's the value in not sending the result?

Just send the prompt

Send... all the context and background skills? Why do you want all that? Send the function definitions? Is that of any real value? There's a good chance it's longer than the output and it's not actually addressing the issue.

exitb• 5 months ago

I’ve used LLMs before to make a message less verbose. As a non-native English speaker, it’s useful outside of generating a word salad.

jcuenod• 5 months ago

Write a witty reply to this article that is sure to get lots of upvotes so I don't have to read it and I can just reap internet karma. If you do a good job, I'll give you a $20 tip. If you do a bad job, a kitten will die.

th3iedkid• 5 months ago

MS Copilot has a feature to link the conversation with the prompt, but haven't found it useful in anyway, actually.

Just Send the Prompt

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