Ask PG & HN: So, when should someone go to Silicon Valley?

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by diminium • 14 years ago

10 9 14 years ago

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I once asked this "Ask HN: You arrived at Silicon Valley. What do you do next?" (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4268060)

The few responses I had basically said "DON'T COME TO SILICON VALLEY UNTIL YOUR READY WITH AN IDEA AND SO FORTH AND MONEY TO SUPPORT YOURSELF" or something like that.

While nice and all, this seems contradictory to the advice that people like PG and various blogs say that you need to be in an environment like SV so that non motivated people commonly found elsewhere don't spend all day shooting your dreams and ambitions down.

Which comes to the question. When should someone come to Silicon Valley? Can a dream survive in one of the most expensive places in the world to live when all you have is a dream and no other resources?

soneill• 14 years ago

My feeling on the matter is that you don't go there until you have, at minimum, a well developed concept that you're ready to start moving on, and it's probably preferable to have gotten started on a MVP. The other question you should ask yourself is whether you need to be located in Silicon Valley at all. As you note, there are both personal barriers to entry (i.e. expense) as well professional barriers to entry (i.e. it may be easier to gain initial traction in another market that isn't as inundated as Silicon Valley is with other startups), and every case is different.

Like most other decisions, it really should just come down to a cost-benefit decision. Are the additional costs of moving to Silicon Valley offset by the benefits (better networks, available talent pool, availability of VC funds), or are you better served somewhere else? Only you can make that decision.

sskates• 14 years ago

One way to make the transition easier- get a job offer from a tech firm out here. Then if you're still unsure about moving out here to start a company, you can use that as a stepping stone to make the transition more comfortable.

If you can't manage to get a single job offer, I wouldn't recommend moving out here to start a company on your own. The bar is much, much, higher for starting a company than getting a job as a developer.

freework• 14 years ago

I've been trying to get a job offer for a company in SV for the past 5 months and no luck so far. Do you have any tips for getting a job in SV when you don't already live there (but are willing to relocate)? I've done a dozen or so interviews, and even been flown out a few times, but have never been offered a position. For reference, I have 5 years experience doing python, and I even run my own "startup" as a solopreneur (quotation marks because I'm not doing this project for the money and cost == profit)

sjg0072• 14 years ago

Figure out why you aren't passing the interviews. Learn Java as well.

diminium• 14 years ago

How do you deal with these "one year non compete agreements" or "every idea you think while working for us belongs to us" contracts that quite a lot of firms make you sign to work for them?

I kind of want a start a company with my own ideas, not one I gave to a company and have to steal back from them.

jason_slack• 14 years ago

I dont subscribe to the philosophy that one must be in SV to take their idea to the next level or succeed in general. SV is not a shrine for success and coming here isn't a magical formula for success.

Yes, I am in SV, but I feel like other areas also have a thriving startup community just as great as SV.

NYC, Boston, Seattle.

DuckDuckGo for example is in Philly.

moocow01• 14 years ago

While I don't think its malicious, remember that PG, Silicon Valley VCs and most of those blogs make money off of the starry eyed young entrepreneurs coming to Silicon Valley. Entrepreneurs essentially are their resources that power those types of businesses. Nothing wrong with it - just remember where people who give out advice are coming from and what they benefit from even if it may benefit you as well.

My personal advice would be to start doing whatever it is you are dreaming about on as little cost as possible and once you identify that your business actually has a true need to be in SV then make the move. It all depends on financial habits and lifestyle but I think many will find that their "normal" middle class lifestyle in SV can gobble through a 100k/yr salary quite easily - its possible to live here on way less but one should be aware of the elevated cost of living.

sjg0072• 14 years ago

For sure, there are a few trailer parks around here you can rent in. Best way is to come work for a start up or work for a bigger tech company. Go to meetups, go meet VCs, network.

So the answer is come, just move here, don't wait. I wish I had moved back in 1998 when I had the chance instead of 2012.

djsamson• 14 years ago

I plan on moving to SV and working for a startup, then launching my own venture one day. I feel like this is an easier transition and I'll be able to accumulate some more experience and assets before I develop something on my own.

Ask PG & HN: So, when should someone go to Silicon Valley?

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