American students are getting dumber

https://www.slowboring.com/p/american-students-are-getting-dumber

by JumpCrisscross • 10 months ago

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leakycap3• 10 months ago

With more to learn than ever, has the US approach to education kept up or prioritized? No, I don't think so.

Students getting "dumber" implies something about the students, when the dumbest things I've encountered or heard of involve the staff and administration of US school systems

JumpCrisscross• 10 months ago

has the US approach to education kept up or prioritized?

"The PISA results are also a reminder of something that I think many Americans don’t know: America’s overall educational performance is above average for a rich country.

Our PISA reading scores were worse than Canada, Ireland, Estonia, and the rich Asian countries, but higher than everyone else in Europe. You used to be able to break out PISA scores by state, which would typically show things like Massachusetts doing better than any European country. But that breakdown is no longer available."

Students getting "dumber" implies something about the students

A tree stunted by being grown in poor soil is still stunted.

bdangubic2• 10 months ago

99% of my kid’s education happens outside of the school. in 2025 if a student is “dumb” it is 100% her/his and parent’s fault, not “administration” or “school system”

both could be better but if you rely on any “system” or “administration” for your well-being you are not going to end up well…

opan• 10 months ago

What sort of education are they getting out of school? I know I learned a lot browsing the web and playing games as a kid, but maybe you also mean something more directed like tutoring.

leakycap3• 10 months ago

99% of my kid’s education happens outside of the school.

If this is true, or even close - your kid desperately needs a new school, an IEP, or some other sort of immediate intervention.

thehappypm• 10 months ago

The rich kids — 90th and 75th percentiles — are flat, with a inconsequential (1%) drop over the decade.

impossiblefork• 10 months ago

Yes, but that could in principle be true literally everywhere, and it might well be.

idoubtit• 10 months ago

Our PISA reading scores were worse than Canada, Ireland, Estonia, and the rich Asian countries, but higher than everyone else in Europe.

Wrong.

In the article, the nearest link that was supposed to prove that claim points to a blog post that uses the 2019 PISA data. And in that post, there's not just Ireland and Estonia in Europe that do better than USA, but also Finland, Poland and Sweden. US-Americans have a reputation of knowing little of the world geography, maybe that's why these countries were forgotten ;-)

The article also has a link to a blog about 2021 PISA data, but with a very limited sample: e.g. Estonia is missing. And Poland still does better than the USA.

tamaharbor• 10 months ago

“Idiocracy”, here we come.

Steven420• 10 months ago

More like here we are

spacebacon• 10 months ago

Fake News

American students are getting dumber

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