ICE Budget Now Bigger Than Most of the Militaries

https://www.newsweek.com/immigration-ice-bill-trump-2093456

by KnuthIsGod • 11 months ago

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mcphage• 11 months ago

This surely isn’t going to cause a lot of deaths in the next few years, no siree.

dataflow• 11 months ago

This is from almost two months ago and it doesn't even have information about the finalized version of the bill. Why is it posted like this now?

BolsunBacset• 11 months ago

I still cannot understand how people understand the basis behind import controls and security for most things but blow a fuse when it comes to humans entering countries illegally.

analognoise• 11 months ago

Spending more than most militaries on it is a breathtakingly stupid solution to a self-inflicted problem.

cwalv• 11 months ago

Once something becomes political, it becomes intertwined with all the other political issues they're concerned/upset about. Everyone suffers from this to some degree; to many, the only thing they really need to know to form an opinion is their chosen party's stance on an issue.

bigyabai• 11 months ago

It's simple, I pay taxes.

dragonwriter2• 11 months ago

I still cannot understand how people understand the basis behind import controls and security for most things but blow a fuse when it comes to humans entering countries illegally

You don't understand why people see a difference between humans and trade goods?

FridayoLeary3• 11 months ago

The immigration numbers so far looks pretty encouraging. Illegal immigration is down 92%. The proposed budget works out to 37.5 billion dollars a year.

While that sounds overly excessive, the UK at a fifth of the population size is spending 6.5, billion pounds a year to encourage illegal immigrants to come into the country. I understand it's not a perfect comparison but I think it's worth pointing out that there are far stupider and more expensive ways that other countries are dealing with the same situation.

defrost3• 11 months ago

the UK .. is spending 6.5 billion pounds a year to encourage illegal immigrants to come into the country.

Can you expand on this for non UK readers?

FridayoLeary3• 11 months ago

I'll do my best. Basically, the UK has signed up to various Human rights treaties which means that anybody who comes into the country by any means has right to claim asylum. While their asylum claim is being processed the UK government must provide them with food and shelter. Many asylum requests are granted on spurious grounds, and often even when rejected the individual still stays in the UK for a variety of reasons.

In the past few years there have been huge numbers of illegal immigrants abusing that system. And successive governments have absolutely no strategy for dealing with it. Hence record numbers of illegal immigration and a huge bill.

Really the whole situation is painfully dumb, but the politicians and civil servants couldn't care because they don't suffer from the consequences of their own incompetence.

varenc• 11 months ago

Here's some other US federal agencies that also have annual budgets bigger than most of the world's militaries:

   - Food and Nutrition Service (USDA) (~$142B)
   - NIH (~$47B)
   - Tenant-Based Rental Assistance / Housing Choice Vouchers (HUD) (~$36B)
   - Pell Grant Program (~$34.5B)
   - Federal Highway Administration (DOT) (~$62.8B)
   - Environmental Protection Agency (~$41B, might be out of date)
   - Department of Energy (~$58B)
   - Department of State (~$58B)
   - Department of Housing and Urban Development (~$62B)
   - Department of Labor (~$98B)

Of course, none of those are ICE. What’s more interesting is that ICE’s budget jumped from $8B to ~$37B—a nearly five-fold increase. That should be the headline.

Comparing it to national militaries is a bit silly IMHO, since as the world’s largest economy the US federal government spends heavily across almost every sector.

dragonwriter2• 11 months ago

What's also noteworthy is that ICE’s real budget is much more than its recently-increased paper budget, since resources and personnel paid for for by the budgets of every other federal law enforcement agency are being redirected to ICE operations.

carbonbioxide• 11 months ago

It's incredible how priorities are so backwards.

ICE Budget Now Bigger Than Most of the Militaries

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