Rethinking Sleep from First Principles

https://www.affectablesleep.com/blog/rethinking-sleep-from-first-principles

by pedalpete • 1 year ago

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tailspin2019• 1 year ago

This would be a lot better if they cited their sources. As it stands it’s interesting but a bit too easy to dismiss as SEO fodder.

pedalpete10• 1 year ago

I was considering that, but then I was also wondering what sources I'd be linking to, and what would people actually read.

The point isn't SEO, we're trying to get people to change their thinking around how we approach sleep.

There is links to research in slow-wave enhancement on our website, but the entire post "could" links to references.

But I take your feedback, and I'll be more conscious of adding links to references in future posts.

florbnit2• 1 year ago

I was also wondering what sources

General best practice is to link to the sources that you have used. You don’t have to wonder what people might or might not read.

al_borland6• 1 year ago

The author spent a lot of time trashing the idea of 8 hours of sleep, but at least that is something actionable people can do. I can’t set an alarm to wake me up when I’ve had enough spindle activity for the night. 8 hours is given as a benchmark, because that’s how long it takes most people’s brains to adequately do the things mentioned.

If an article is telling me to throw out the rule book on sleep, it needs to offer new and actionable rules. Otherwise, I’m not sure what the point of this was, other than means to harvest email addresses.

pedalpete10• 1 year ago

What I was attempting to do was change the conversation around sleep. It's a long road.

I'm regularly answering questions from people on Reddit who are saying "I got 8 hours, but I still feel horrible", or "what's going to happen if I don't get 8 hours of sleep". We need to change this entire conversation.

I get the frustration around “where are the new rules", and I probably could have done a better job at recommending a focus on bio-markers, etc. What I’m trying to do is make space for a new direction focused on functional sleep health. That’s what we’re actively building toward.

I wrote this post to explain why we’re working on what we’re working on, and to engage with people who see the world as we do, or open their eyes to a new way of looking at the sleep.

I appreciate you taking the time to comment, is it safe to say the idea struck a nerve, but that you were wanting more?

Just so you know, this isn't a "let's throw up a web-page and see if we can harvest emails", we've been developing this technology for almost 5 years, and it is being used by researchers in clinical studies.

al_borland6• 1 year ago

Biomarkers are all well and good, but how can those actually be measured on a nightly basis? When I think of measuring these things it involves a lot of sensors and tends to be in a lab environment. Home sleep trackers as we know them today are pretty blunt instruments, and I find even a simple wrist based tracker makes it harder for me to fall asleep, I become very aware of it.

Even if all these markers are measured somehow, what can a person do with that information? I can’t work harder to do any of this stuff, it all happens automatically while sleeping. You mention alcohol can disturb certain systems, but that goes back to standard sleep hygiene rules, which the article was looking to dismiss and move beyond.

So I’m left wondering where all this is going? I’ve struggled with sleep my entire life. The start of the article seemed like it was going to make some big promises, and I’m left with nothing but questions. You’re looking to change the conversation, but I still don’t know what the intended destination looks like.

florbnit2• 1 year ago

If you’re ready to stop measuring sleep by the clock, and start enhancing the restorative function of sleep, join the waitlist and be the first to experience what functional sleep health can really mean.

Feels like a tldr is “Hi I read some stuff about sleep please give me your e-mail”

Rethinking Sleep from First Principles

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