Gazans tell BBC of torture in Israeli detention

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn7vje365rno

by jamesfisher • 1 year ago

102 15 1 year ago

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It appears that the IDF killed medics in ambulances with emergency lights on and high vis clothing, then lied about it. So nothing should surprise us at this point.

"BBC Verify analyses video showing Israel's killing of Gaza medics" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cj9e22dezeno

FirmwareBurner• 1 year ago

No worries, US is gonna give them 4 billion in aid instead of 10 billion as punishment.

r721• 1 year ago

HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43599864 (86 comments)

aqme28• 1 year ago

I have to tread lightly on this subject of course--

While I agree with calls for Hamas to "return the hostages," I feel exactly the same towards the thousands of Palestinians kept in Israeli prisons, often innocent, often without charge, often underage, often beaten, tortured, or sexually abused.

mvdtnz• 1 year ago

Got any evidence for any of these allegations?

jhanschoo• 1 year ago

I'm not parent commenter, but TFA is primary reporting containing exactly the evidence you are asking about.

men [...] held under Israel's Unlawful Combatants Law, a measure by which people suspected of posing a security risk can be detained for an unspecified period without charge, as Israel set out to recover the hostages and dismantle the proscribed terror group

which may or may not be distinct what parent comment refers to by Palestinian prisoners:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn7vje365rno

The BBC article cites further related reporting:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2yylgze4ro

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/hrbodies...

moshin• 1 year ago

have you got any evidence to the contrary?

yieldcrv2• 1 year ago

There are large protests of the fragile Israeli coalition government, by Jewish Israeli citizens, in Israel, every day. Specifically over this unpopular war. They flared up in size after the most recent cease fire ended.

It means that the global unpopularity of this war by non-Jewish non-Israeli people was always worth validating.

The culture of deflection in response to non-jewish people criticizing the exact same things that Jewish Israeli citizens are is just a meme worth ignoring. The general idea is that there is a belief that non-jewish people worldwide are thinly hiding a goal of eradication. A lot of Jewish and Israeli people are taught that from a young age, so its not easy for them to tell when people are only criticizing the exact same government policies that they are, with the same level of nuance.

BenGosub• 1 year ago

It's a genocide it's not a war

unruffled4079• 1 year ago

Would you be able to explain how

A lot of Jewish and Israeli people are taught [that non-jewish people worldwide are thinly hiding a goal of eradication] from a young age

this works? I'm not Jewish or Israeli, and would like to understand whether it's taught through religion or culture. And what "eradication" means in this context.

pbiggar• 1 year ago

Israel has long used torture against Palestinian civilians. Some examples.

"Israel/OPT: Horrifying cases of torture and degrading treatment of Palestinian detainees amid spike in arbitrary arrests": https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/11/israel-opt-ho...

"Israel: Palestinian Healthcare Workers Tortured": https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/08/26/israel-palestinian-healt...

"Israel’s escalating use of torture against Palestinians in custody a preventable crime against humanity: UN experts": https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/08/israels-esca...

Yoric• 1 year ago

I think it's an important concern, but is this the best forum?

fynis• 1 year ago

Where would be the next best place for a true discussion on the topic?

Protostome• 1 year ago

I think both sides have been using torture... only one side gets to appear on the BBC

Gazans tell BBC of torture in Israeli detention

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