Proxmox Announces Proxmox Datacenter Manager

https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-datacenter-manager-first-alpha-release.159323/

by LorenDB • 2 years ago

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gregatragenet3• 2 years ago

Have to login to see any of the screenshots

mdaniel2• 2 years ago

https://bugmenot.com/view/forum.proxmox.com to the rescue (the rh8dohgnoidr username worked for me)

https://imgur.com/a/8jmfHVB are the two screenshots from the first post

One will want to avoid using $(git clone --recursive) since they have a bogus url in their .gitmodules https://git.proxmox.com/?p=proxmox-datacenter-manager.git;a=...

tlamponi5• 2 years ago

since they have a bogus url in their .gitmodules

Fixed just now.

stackskipton• 2 years ago

Looks like it's getting hugged to death.

robinhoodexe• 2 years ago

This link seems to work:

https://www.proxmox.com/en/about/press-releases/proxmox-data...

tlamponi5• 2 years ago

It's an early alpha; the bigger news hidden within is our new Rust/Yew based web framework called proxmox-yew-widget-toolkit [0], it will allow us to move away from ExtJS (where the backing company seemingly forgot that they used to be open source) and go full in on Rust in the frontend too; it really is a breath of fresh air!

https://git.proxmox.com/?p=ui/proxmox-yew-widget-toolkit.git...

If you got any question feel free to ask.

oddly• 2 years ago

Really interesting, thanks for letting us know. There hasn't been a lot of new about this (not that I've been looking that long), is there a place to follow up on these developments, a roadmap of sorts?

Edit: Misread, thought this was about the "normal" Proxmox web UI. Any plans to make that Rust based?

tlamponi5• 2 years ago

  > is there a place to follow up on these developments, a roadmap of sorts?

For PDM there is a roadmap [0] for the new widget toolkit there isn't such a single documents, but an initial whitepaper (well simple markdown-formatted text to provide some background and examples).

For development, you can follow on the mailing lists [1] or use our public inbox interface [2] for them, yew-devel is for the web framework/widget toolkit and pdn-devel is for, well, PDM.

  > Any plans to make that Rust based?

Spelled out, detailed and actionable plan? No. On the long-term roadmap? Yes, definitively.

[0] https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Proxmox_Datacenter_Manager_Road...

[1] https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

[2] https://lore.proxmox.com/

vaxman2• 2 years ago

"It's 1990, time to get ugly. [Pre-Chorus 2] Should be a crime to be that ugly." https://youtu.be/CroETQY51J4

Just for the record, you cannot go in my headset with that UX

[Kids who have been playing with Proxmoxx for the past decade face serious competitive threats from a new generation that will NOT recommend product$ that look like 1980s industrial control systems just because some geek tells them it doesn't require giving money to a boomer in Redmond that they never cared less about. https://youtu.be/ru3gH27Fn6E ]

Maybe try Godot and see what you can put together over the holidays! If you don't, be someone else will..

tlamponi5• 2 years ago

I'm not sure what to get from this comment, are you sure you checked out the actual new interface? There's a screenshot here: https://pve.proxmox.com/mediawiki/images/7/76/Pdm-alpha-0.1....

Maybe try Godot and see what you can put together over the holidays! If you don't, be someone else will..

Godot is a game engine written in C++ and thus just not relevant for our use case, which is to have a web framework using native web technology to leverage the accessibility progress made there over the last decades and being written in Rust.

guerby• 2 years ago

Rust strikes again :)

"The project is fully developed in the Rust programming language, from the backend API server to the CLI tools to a completely new frontend. The frontend is built on the new widget toolkit that we developed over the last few years. This offers a more modern web user interface experience, not only in terms of appearance and functionality, but also in terms of accessibility, speed, and compatibility."

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