Ethical Challenges Related to the NeurIPS 2024 Best Paper Award

https://var-integrity-report.github.io/

by Dowwie • 2 years ago

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var-integrity-report.github.io

m_ke3• 2 years ago

Who is "we" in this statement?

RicoElectrico3• 2 years ago

Some anonymous person or group, apparently.

https://github.com/var-integrity-report/var-integrity-report...

Not surprising considering the petty assholes you can get in academia.

readthenotes12• 2 years ago

Sounds like some people I've played games against, restating "Everything which is not forbidden is allowed" as "Everything which is allowed is expected"

RicoElectrico3• 2 years ago

Do you mean Tian or the statement autor(s)? Please elaborate.

readthenotes12• 2 years ago

Tian, if the report is accurate, statement authors if it's defamation

brookst2• 2 years ago

I have no knowledge of the players and their comparative credibility, but this “ethical challenges” piece sure makes Keyu Tian out to be an insanely talented intern. Sabotaging pytorch source code via random seeds? Understanding that Docker containers were not version controlled? Stealing corp GPU time for personal projects? Setting up login backdoors?

All this as an intern? That’s one multi-talented evil genius if true.

m_ke3• 2 years ago

He's a graduate student with multiple influential papers, including NeurIPS best paper award here that might change how to do image / video generation, I think he can figure out docker and tweak a few lines of python.

brookst2• 2 years ago

It’s more the black hat expertise I’m referring to. Knowing that containers aren’t versioned, and that random seeds are a a good attack vector.

Of course he knows python. But apparently also a very accomplished systems thinker who can apply it to a different domain.

RicoElectrico3• 2 years ago

This all was described before, and acted on by ByteDance.

And let's be real, there's an inflation of what "intern" means in academia, finance and elsewhere like FAANG. They're often doing a job of an FTE in less-prestigious employers, just that it's maybe not directly expected to pay off.

btwillard• 2 years ago

I hope that person is paying you for this positive PR spin!

nis0s• 2 years ago

I made the following comment in another thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42386324

Ethical Challenges Related to the NeurIPS 2024 Best Paper Award

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