Clojure Obscura

http://blog.fogus.me/2012/07/09/clojure-obscura/#post-4392

by llambda • 14 years ago

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Good to see the compilation target list is growing. The Clojure->Scheme->C target has previously been discussed on HN, sad to see it isn't being actively worked on now. The Clojure->C target is new to me though, and is active. The documentation is a bit light and I can't gleam how to use it from the tests. Has anyone here played with it and know what's going on?

https://github.com/schani/clojurec

werg• 14 years ago

It's extremely new, see discussion: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/clojure/3...

MatthewPhillips3• 14 years ago

Wow, his personal goals are exactly the type of thing I've been wanting. Will definitely follow this project.

spenrose• 14 years ago

Thanks for this: very interested to hear how live an issue it was that many more platforms supported C than LLVM.

aaronblohowiak• 14 years ago

What is it about Clojure that makes implementation towards other targets so appealing / approachable to devs?

MatthewPhillips3• 14 years ago

Clojure was specifically designed to have multiple target implementations. That's the why it's approachable. As for why it's desirable, clojure is a high-level language and as such has certain niceties that are difficult to give up when forced to drop down to a lower level.

spacemanaki• 14 years ago

At least some of the recent Clojure implementations are based on ClojureScript's compiler, which from what I understand is relatively moduler: http://blog.fogus.me/2012/03/27/compiling-clojure-to-javascr...

Lisps in general are appealing to implement. Clojure's core language is about as small as Scheme's, and there are a lot of Scheme implementations too. The parts of Clojure that set it apart from other Lisps (STM, persistent data structures) aren't always ported. I don't think any of the recent approaches to targeting C (Clj->Scheme->C, Clj->C) include STM or persistent data structures. I'd be happy to be pleasantly surprised though.

dustingetz2• 14 years ago

its clean and simple. the ClojureScript compiler is 2000 lines of clojure.

mark_l_watson• 14 years ago

+1 great list Michael. I liked the contracts/Trammel link. I have never really got into contracts but this looks lite enough on ceremony that I can visualize using it. A long time ago I was very enthusiastic about the Little Schemer and Little Reasoner books, and sometime I need to make the plunge into core.logic.

I wish that I could (mostly) "go all in" with Clojure but there are also so many things I enjoy about Ruby. These two languages compete for my dev attention, and sometimes it is a brutal fight :-) Almost like there is too much good/useful/fun tech (cornucopia complex: http://blog.markwatson.com/2005/11/cornucopia-complex-ruby-o...)

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