Hetzner now throttling shared CPUs if you use >20%

https://docs.hetzner.com/cloud/servers/faq/

by micw • 2 years ago

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micw6• 2 years ago

Hetzner has changed their FAQ for shared CPU cloud servers. Similar to AWS they define a CPU baseline (20-33%, depending on server type). If that baseline is permanently exceeded, the CPUs are throttled.

lyu072822• 2 years ago

It doesn't say that anywhere, where did you see that?

micw6• 2 years ago

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41519905 - they removed it 2 days after they added it

andrewstuart2• 2 years ago

What if you needed to use your hetzner or Amazon computers to do………. computing?

micw6• 2 years ago

Using 20% is not really "computing". I have some kubernetes masters affected which are "almost idle" but have only 1-2 cores, so the baseline is above 20%...

andrewstuart2• 2 years ago

I stopped using AWS cause the cloud made no sense any more.

I did have hetzner as an alternative to escape the big vendor craziness but I guess they’re the same in some ways.

I use IONOS. As far as I know they don’t do this but I haven’t read the terms that closely.

Clouds are working hard to push people off the clouds back to their own self hosted systems where it costs less and you can, you know…… compute stuff.

Why do they do this? Is it to share all the CPUs across manyVMs and squeeze more profit out rather than dedicate cores to VMs?

raverbashing• 2 years ago

Then get a specific AWS or Hetzner plan for it

bravetraveler2• 2 years ago

Buy the dedicated processing core package if you need to command a shared resource, of course

This is a fundamental to the market, welcome to the cloud. Or VPS before that.

I still rent dedicated servers, hosting my own VMs. Cloud pricing is predatory but not forced.

iudqnolq3• 2 years ago

Where does it say that? Here is exactly the page I see: https://web.archive.org/web/20240912104240/https://docs.hetz...

Plans (CCX) with dedicated vCPUs have their CPU resources exclusively. Here one vCPU equals one thread of a physical CPU core. Instances with dedicated vCPUs offer continuous and predictable high CPU performance. We recommend them for systems with high production loads and CPU intensive applications. They run on high-performance hardware and come with a generous allocation of I/O and network power.

Of course that implies there is some throttling. But I see nothing about a hard 20% cap.

micw6• 2 years ago

They added it on Tuesday and removed it today. Fortunately I made a screenshot (from the german version of the page). The support told me exact the same things that has been on the page and the our servers are throttled since >30 days. So it's now hidden but still a fact.

Edit: I uploaded my screenshot: https://i.postimg.cc/dQrwPWdq/signal-2024-09-11-155709-002.p...

iudqnolq3• 2 years ago

Have you been using 20% sustained for those 30 days?

The surprising thing to me was that you seemed to be saying there was a hard cap of 20% you couldn't ever exceed. I'm not surprised you aren't allowed to use all the shared resources all the time.

lyu072822• 2 years ago

I would think if you have something that needs >20% CPU constantly, you really shouldn't be relying on a shared resource for it in the first place.

To put it in relation we are talking here about less than 15€ per month for 2 dedicated vCPUs/8GB/80GB vs. 5€ per month with half the RAM and HDD. It really doesn't matter.

Hetzner now throttling shared CPUs if you use >20%

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