It Doesn't Take Much to See That the Future of EVs Is Already Here

https://www.motor1.com/features/730273/the-future-of-evs-is-already-here/

by Stratoscope • 2 years ago

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ggm6• 2 years ago

Battery Swap works. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

Forget the Gresham's law "bad batteries drive out good" idea, batteries are not a currency they are a use value. Bad batteries will be removed from circulation.

As battery energy density rises, and size falls, the idea that batteries need to be complex and integrated into the vehicle monocoque will retire against the use value of a standard size replacable brick.

Remember we have EV forever now. We're at the model T Ford era of battery vehicle.

JumpCrisscross• 2 years ago

Battery Swap works

Where?

ggm6• 2 years ago

China. Nio in the mainland for cars and gogoro doing scooter batteries in Taiwan. It's been used for industrial vehicles for decades. The videos I've seen of a nio swap show its a sub 5min changeover, for a full charge. And, the swap stacks are obvious candidates to soak surplus wind and solar power.

nashashmi3• 2 years ago

The battery swap idea is kept away at arm's length by car manufacturers themselves who feel responsible for customers mishandling batteries. Innovative adoptions are thwarted due to lawsuits, legal issues, ethics; like the conversation behind the too-soon viability of self-driving cars.

The best use case for battery swap is by vehicle fleet owners, like Amazon and their Rivians. Or by corporations with overlord like discipline over their equipment and workers.

ggm6• 2 years ago

I love it when second order effects are used to justify first order decisions.

I believe it's much simpler: there was no financial advantage to Musk toward achieving market dominance and the prior history of auto industry execs collaborating on a standard early in the life of a new product is low. There was significant financial advantage to Musk selling best of breed, and competing on battery quality and range was in his interest.

I believe Tesla and Ford and others position on commonality like charger plugging is applicable here. They probably needed to be regulated into it. Which they were in Europe and Asia.

US Lawfare would stop alcohol and gasoline dead as new products. And sex, television, and the Internet.

floxy• 2 years ago

Anyone know the trend in new gas station construction for the recent past for the U.S.? Also would be interested to know stats about gas station trends in places like Norway, where new car sales are something like 90% EVs.

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/08/02/evs-take-94-3-share-in-...

nashashmi3• 2 years ago

Anyone else find the article quite dense in technical verbiage?

It Doesn't Take Much to See That the Future of EVs Is Already Here

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