Surveillance Watch – the hidden connections within the surveillance industry

https://www.surveillancewatch.io

by nabla9 • 2 years ago

150 37 2 years ago

surveillancewatch.io

AndrewKemendo3• 2 years ago

Why are Meta and Alphabet, the top spyware companies on the planet, not on here?

ahmedbaracat2• 2 years ago

Couldn’t agree more tbh. I am currently in the process of cutting ties to all Meta and Alphabet products.

I am documenting my steps/actions here: https://barac.at/essays/on-trying-to-escape-the-surveillance...

For ppl interested in understanding why surveillance is prevailing on the Internet, I highly recommend https://secushare.org/broken-internet

BolexNOLA• 2 years ago

Glad to see the proton mail endorsement! Reinforces my decision haha. I use their mail, cloud storage, and VPN. Been happy for 2 years now.

api2• 2 years ago

Re: the last link: this is not why surveillance prevails on the Internet.

It’s an economic problem not a technological problem. Surveillance driven advertising became the business model of the net because people don’t pay for content online. That left advertisers as the only true customers, and companies and ecosystems grow toward and around their customers the way plants bend and stretch toward light.

Making the Internet more secure would not have changed this. Surveillance is built into consumer technology directly because advertisers pay more for access to people than people pay directly.

Advertising is the primary force behind this. Government driven surveillance is secondary and really just piggybacks on systems created and sustained by the ad and PR industries.

One of the things you learn as an older engineer is that a lot of stubborn technology problems are stubborn because they are not technology problems. They are socioeconomic or political problems. Privacy online is one of these.

The only way I see this changing is if people change their buying behavior and start demanding privacy, avoiding insecure products, and being willing to pay for it.

alephnerd2• 2 years ago

Because this is ACTUAL surveillance technology - as in vendors law enforcement and governments can directly contract with to tap, monitor, and trace a target.

An Alphabet or Meta only provides metadata, and they too after a court order.

Ok the other hand, these are companies that use said metadata to directly uncover a target.

Using a Gnu or FOSS stack wouldn't protect against the surveillance companies listed.

AndrewKemendo3• 2 years ago

Yes, well “actual” law-enforcement agencies “actually” use tons of data that originates with Meta and alphabet respectively - at a scale that literally no other organization has the ability to comply with

hulitu2• 2 years ago

You forgot Microsoft and Apple.

afh1• 2 years ago

What is this js clickbait? Looks like old Flash websites.

surfingdino• 2 years ago

Pegasus was sold to more countries than they list. It's a good start though. Future improvements could include ability to click on the globe and see what companies are located in the area.

genezeta• 2 years ago

The globe doesn't appear on Firefox. Just a black background and a lot of warnings on the console about textures not loading correctly ("renderbufferStorage(Multisample)?: Width or height exceeds maximum renderbuffer size") and then framebuffer not being complete because of the lack of width or height.

entropie• 2 years ago

TBH, besides displaying connections its not really interactive. No click, no scroll.

mrintegrity• 2 years ago

Firefox on Android mobile works! With unlock origin also which is nice

loufe• 2 years ago

It does for me, no issues.

jeroenhd• 2 years ago

It works fine for me in a clean profile, not using my normal one.

I think it's using some kind of feature I've got disabled, or resistFingerprinting is interfering, or maybe an addon or whatnot, but this is definitely a client side issue.

giantg22• 2 years ago

" or resistFingerprinting is interfering"

How ironic

23B1• 2 years ago

Browser not supported

x436413• 2 years ago

is this available in a sqlite format† or does anybody know what open dataset supports this? i'd like to explore the connections, but the visualization is both slow on my machine, doesn't quite work on firefox, and is perhaps not in a way i would personally find useful.

†machine parsable format

wizzwizz4• 2 years ago

“Not yet, but it's on the roadmap for sure.” — https://mastodon.social/@alshafei/112974828655984716

irundebian• 2 years ago

Resource hungry website.

chrisldgk• 2 years ago

Great website, but I’d recommend making the globe in the background optional or suppressing it on mobile devices or connections. Is the site itself open source? I’d love to help out with this particular thing as I’ve made many a 3d globe on the web and have some experience optimizing this for different end clients

b112• 2 years ago

These people seem to be missing.

https://www.jsitelecom.com/

popcalc• 2 years ago

Why is Hungary not listed as an NSO client? The presentation is only as good as the data. Amateur vibes.

jmakov• 2 years ago

One of the outstanding problems of our generation, 21 comments. Nice.

giantg22• 2 years ago

What comments were you expecting? Perhaps this generation is cynical enough to not care because they've been brought up under constant surveillance at home, in public, at school, etc.

davidu• 2 years ago

So much of this data is so wrong. It's bizarrely and obviously wrong.

ta988• 2 years ago

What's missing may tell you more that what is there.

Xen9• 2 years ago

I did not open the site, but unless there's a list of names, preferrably with portraits & clear captions (e.g. "FName Lname, X billions made, from Y definition surveillance / other evils of Z humans") no blame campaign will be effective.

In fact, I would laugh at my (hypothetical) company ending up in list like this; now the blame will be targeted at a non-natural person completely under control (muhahaha).

It'd be cool to make a bunch of algorithm of how much sins publicly known humans have committed.

It would work like this:

Select EG (1) Sharia law (2) Bible (3) Human rights (4) Pain experienced, shimp-saver style.

Then you get at how much sin they've caused!

One could probably even use Wikipedia as source, and get rather far with this.

There's overall absolutely unreasonably little blame of rich humans: how much is the amount of serial killers times their average victim count divided by amount of deaths caused by averaged indirect killings of polluting investors? How come you only know the names of the killers?

Spoiler:

Because humans are evolved to react to violence but not paper leading to violence & Because no established political systems disconnects wealth from political power.

Surveillance Watch – the hidden connections within the surveillance industry

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