The Elon Musk interview that got Don Lemon's show canceled

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/18/24104708/elon-musk-interview-don-lemon-show-canceled

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nadermx• 2 years ago

Is this the striesisand effect for Don Lemon, or was this a a clever trick by musk and co to get more press over this?

Log_out_• 2 years ago

Horrible people can create great things.this does not mean society should chancel great things or their makers.the moonlanding was an archievement for all mankind. Even though nazis built the rocket. Should also be obvious that it shouldn't be a platform for the monsters to propagandize there believes.

fieldcny• 2 years ago

Your comment leaves me scratching my head as it is all over the place.

We all need to just stop paying attention to Musk, he’s nothing more that a gussied up Musk supremcist dork with skin so thin he’s more translucent than he is white.

He’s made a career out of taking big risks with other people’s money and being saved by absurd fed policies while also milking the government for every last nickel he can squeeze out of it

funnybookbinder• 2 years ago

I don’t come to hacker news for this.

panick21_• 2 years ago

He’s made a career out of taking big risks with other people’s money

Quite a big statement about somebody that spent all his personal wealth to invest in Tesla and create SpaceX. Both companies in industries known to be startup unfriendly and places where he couldn't get much outside investment.

And before that, his first small startup, he reinvested that money into his second startup that then gave him the money to invest in Tesla/SpaceX.

By the time these companies got lots of outside investment they had proven their basic ability to operate. In case of SpaceX the flew Falcon 1 and had a contract for ISS resupply. In case of Tesla they had the Roadster working and had solid plans for Tesla Model S. And I think the investors in both companies were happy. Isn't this the whole point of startups?

You act like its easy to 'just get other peoples money and take big risks', and if that's all he did then maybe you would have an argument. But the whole point of why he is famous is that those investments turned into to major US companies.

saved by absurd fed policies while also milking the government for every last nickel he can squeeze out of it

That's just factually incorrect.

In case of SpaceX they go ISS resupply contract, something that most people do not think is stupid. And they got it because they proved to be decent engineers and offered it at a low price, and the were successful. It was objectively one of the best contract NASA ever signed and you will find anybody on NASA who disagrees. Since then they have received many government contracts in addition to many private ones, non of those are stupid. Of all space companies in US history, SpaceX depends the least on the US government.

The first big federal help Tesla got was the investment in Model S production. All US automakers got money for 'next generation vehicle', Ford got way more then Tesla. GM was fully bailed out by the government at that time. And just FYI, when I last checked Ford had not paid back that money to the government. Tesla on the other hand paid that money back with interest ahead of schedule.

Beyond that the Fed did a bunch of stuff to encourage EV. Those policies helped all automakers, and often even foreign ones. One can argue that this actually hurts Tesla because it resulted in other automakers investing in EV not leaving the market open for Tesla to capture for longer.

Tesla received tax cuts and so on, but there Tesla is no different then any other company that does large manufacturing investments.

Encouraging EV is also not stupid. One can argue if its the best transportation policy (I don't think it is) but it isn't exactly stupid either.

And then who are you comparing them to? Against some idea perfect libertarian dream cooperation? If you compare them with actual real competitors, then making the argument that his companies are some government depended bloodsucker just doesn't hold up in the slightest.

tibbydudeza• 2 years ago

One can argue the German rocket scientists squirreled out by the US to work for NASA were not Nazi ideologues or mass murderers working in the death camps but merely paid lip service like most Germans and joined the party and the war effort to save their scientific careers and lives.

Dr Mengele on the other hand.

Imnimo• 2 years ago

Embarrassing for Musk to be so fragile, and embarrassing for Lemon to have been naive enough to think having a show on X would end any other way.

klyrs• 2 years ago

Is it actually embarrassing for Lemon? He took Musk at his word, and Musk proved to the world once again that his commitment to free speech is one-sided. Who else would have had the opportunity to expose Musk's hypocrisy in this manner?

If Lemon's so-called naivety was so embarrassing, why would he publish the interview in a different venue? Sounds to me like Lemon doesn't have anything to hide here, and all the egg is on Musk's face. If anything, engaging with Twitter looks like a smart move on Lemon's part because the attempted cancellation raised public interest in the interview. The opposite of naive.

rsynnott• 2 years ago

I mean, while it was inevitable it would implode, I must say I’m _slightly_ surprised that it has imploded before it event _started_.

freejazz2• 2 years ago

It's a huge win for Lemon, he gets to start his show off with this interview.

timbo16422• 2 years ago

Win? Embarrassing himself and not being professional and not being able to keep his cool is not a win, its embarrassment which he has always been.

He lost a big deal because he wanted to be hostile and argumentative and against the truth (when Elon told him people will show whos right/wrong, he said that doesn't mean anything even if there is a study attached)

timbo16422• 2 years ago

You're just saying this nonsense because you hate Musk because he's not a democrat anymore. That's where all the hate you have stems from.

With that said, he was given the same opportunity to other democratic leaders and they are on the platform with no issues.

Don was being a complete jerk and wasn't being genuine. Don has always been disingenuous and full of it. Plus everyone thats worked with him at CNN hated him

ChrisArchitect• 2 years ago

Related from last week:

Don Lemon says Elon Musk canceled his deal with X after 'tense' interview

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39695897

itsjustme2• 2 years ago

I am not sure what the fuss is about, honestly. Elon didn't storm off the set, he answered all the questions asked, Don seemed to pick up on some negative vibes but of course he would since they're having an intense discussion where there were several points at which they had to simply disagree and move to the next subject.

Don irritated the guy who invited him into a partnership and then that partnership was rescinded. Don himself prefaces the clip by saying his show wasn't cancelled by X. Seems pretty in line with what Elon said in the interview about how everyone's free to post, but that doesn't mean X will promote it. X decided not to promote Don Lemon's show.

suddenclarity• 2 years ago

It's just another case of "spaceman bad". Even his recent comment about Microsoft requiring a user account for installing Windows seemingly made some people make a 180 just to disagree with him.

The Elon Musk interview that got Don Lemon's show canceled

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