DBOS Cloud: Transactional Serverless Computing on a Cloud-Native OS

https://www.dbos.dev/blog/announcing-dbos

by hiyer • 2 years ago

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gregw22• 2 years ago

Appreciating Stonebraker, and the concept of layering an OS on a DB, I went to see how this OS handled basics like console IO, file IO and networking and stumbled across their Hello World app.

https://docs.dbos.dev/getting-started/quickstart-programming...

The example five liner contained so many programming concepts within its boilerplate syntax (classes, await, annotations, etc), I cant see it taking off unless people already loving typescript think DBOS amazingly solves their problems.

It doesn't seem to make the simple things simple.

(In terms of adoption pitfalls I'm not sure it's overcome the pitfalls NoSQL has... But this time in the operating systems domain.)

ThinkBeat2• 2 years ago

Reminds me of OS/400.

Can I download DBOS to run it locally?

Web page says "So Matei and I launched a joint MIT-Stanford open-source R&D project to prototype DBOS"

and it points to this site: https://dbos-project.github.io/ and https://github.com/DBOS-project

Neither contain much source code at all.

Under pricing on the main page it says:

Can I run DBOS Cloud on-premises?

The DBOS SDK can deploy your transactional, fault-tolerant TypeScript code locally (any platform) for testing purposes. For production deployment, deploy your code from the SDK to DBOS Cloud

But that is for DBOSCloud, but I guess it goes for DBOS as well?

https://github.com/DBOS-project

gregw22• 2 years ago

Agreed. It'd be interesting to have Brian Kernighan (C/unix) moderate a panel discussion with Frank Soltis (OS/400) and Michael Stonebraker.

(If OpenAI Sora could create a compelling video of that, I would declare GenAI solved!)

(Was their ever a technical architect associated with Microsoft's Cairo/Longhorn/Avalon/WinFS SQL server filesystem that never made it past MSDN previews? Might want that person on the panel too...)

skissane2• 2 years ago

https://github.com/DBOS-project

I don't believe that's the current code. That's the code from when they were a university research project. Now they've spun off it into a commercial venture, the code is here: https://github.com/dbos-inc/dbos-ts

It looks like the local development environment is open source but cloud-based production runtime is closed source.

ThinkBeat2• 2 years ago

Interesting. Thank you for the link.

Browsing through the code, it appears that they have at least opens sourced many components.

It does not seem easy to "compile" combine them coherently them into an ISO and install. (ok usb stick, whatever is best these days)

Also surprised to see Java and Scala, Python and C++, I do think that is cool.

DBOS Cloud: Transactional Serverless Computing on a Cloud-Native OS

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