Eleanor Cross

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by Thevet • 3 years ago

47 16 3 years ago

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That's pretty cool.

Edward I was the "bad guy" in Braveheart. As always, things tend to be more complex than we want to believe.

My father[0] was a really interesting chap. He was deeply steeped in diplomacy and foreign relations, and would gently correct me, every time I made some absolutist statement ("They should just..."). He'd point out that, in our culture, it's OK for us to say this, but when we say the same thing in their culture, it actually means... etc.

[0] https://cmarshall.com/miscellaneous/MikeMarshall.htm

pdonis2• 3 years ago

Edward I was the "bad guy" in Braveheart. As always, things tend to be more complex than we want to believe.

Braveheart was criticized for many historical inaccuracies (my personal favorite is the scene near the end when Isabella of France tells Edward I that the child she will have, who will inherit the English throne, is by Wallace, not Edward's son--which couldn't possibly be true since, first, Edward II didn't even marry Isabella until after his father Edward I was dead, and second, Edward III, who succeeded Edward II, wasn't born until 1312, seven years after William Wallace died). However, it is true that Edward I had William Wallace hanged, drawn, and quartered for treason against England. (Which, since Scotland was a separate kingdom from England at the time, does seem a bit much.)

ChrisMarshallNY3• 3 years ago

I think that Longshanks' claim to fame, is that he united a much larger part of the British Isles, than anyone before.

That is usually done with a fair bit of brutality, as anyone that has looked past the rose-colored glasses, at the Roman Empire, can tell you.

thriftwy• 3 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Struve_Geodetic_Arc

webwielder2• 3 years ago

If you like semi-ancient pillars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_and_Holy_Trinity_column...

js2• 3 years ago

If you like ancient-ancient pillars:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_obelisks_in_Rome

vr463• 3 years ago

The Charing Cross, erm, cross is marvellous and yet so badly situated, the mind boggles. My ex-girlfriend was a tour guide and filled me in on it about twenty-five years ago and NOTHING has improved.

Look at where it is on the satellite image:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/A7ZF3acr35XnN1AX7?g_st=ic

OJFord2• 3 years ago

I'm not sure what you mean, but it's not the original location (or design) according to the OP.

It has been there since 1865 though, so if you think it's awkward wrt the infrastructure that's developed since then really it's the other way around and I'm not sure who you expected to do what over the last 25y? Or am I missing a joke?

vr463• 3 years ago

It’s a replica, for sure, but it is still a commemorative monument, and it was specifically commissioned by the railway company and restored about fifteen years ago, with some bollards added to protect it from cars, but it’s forlorn and feels neglected sat shielded by the railing and then across a car park. I was leaning against it a few months ago waiting for a friend, lamenting that so much of London’s heritage and history gets so much attention and this poor thing is almost designed to be ignored.

pugworthy• 3 years ago

TIL how "Charing Cross" got its name. I always just thought "Cross" as in crossing - as in lots of streets crossing.

Eleanor Cross

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