Actors Strike Ends with a Deal That Will Impact AI and Streaming for Decades

https://www.wired.com/story/hollywood-actors-strike-ends-ai-streaming/

by Jimmc414 • 3 years ago

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MrThoughtful• 3 years ago

This article has no information about the deal at all.

Was it upvoted 14 times because others hoped for someone to read it and post the terms of the deal in a comment?

If so: Here is the answer. The terms are not in the article :)

So, as far as I can see, there is absolutely no new information in this article except for "Hollywood Actors Strike Ends With a Deal". Even the second part of the title "That Will Impact AI and Streaming for Decades" seems pure fantasy considering the deal is not disclosed.

So from my perspective, the whole article could have been:

    The Hollywood actors strike ends with a deal.
    The terms have not been disclosed.
    For more info about the strike, check our
    previous coverage: [some links]

Or am I missing something? If nothing - why isn't this kind of "to the point" journalism a thing? Could one make a news website which works that way? Would there be demand for this?

crotchfire2• 3 years ago

That's what journalism was, back when print media had more reliable sources of funding.

ClariNet was awesome; it was articles like you describe, delivered over a lean protocol (NNTP) designed to do exactly that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClariNet

pixelesque• 3 years ago

https://www.wgacontract2023.org/wgacontract/files/wga-negoti...

Edit: actually, that the Writers Guild's one, so wrong one... sorry...

crotchfire2• 3 years ago

TENTATIVE AGREEMENT (9/25/2023)

Regulate use of artificial intelligence on MBA- covered projects: AI-generated written material is not considered literary material, source material or assigned material under the MBA.

AI is not a writer under the MBA.

Writer can elect to use AI when performing writing services, if Company consents and provided writer follows applicable company policies. Company cannot require writer to use AI software (e.g., ChatGPT) when performing writing services.

Company must disclose to writer if any material given to writer has been generated by AI or incorporates AI-generated material.

Guild reserves right to assert that exploitation of writers’ material to train AI is prohibited by MBA or other law.

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Notably, the demand "MBA-covered material can’t be used to train AI" appears not to be part of the tentative agreement.

SideburnsOfDoom• 3 years ago

"the actor's strike has ended" is news. it is a data point.

"Here are the terms of the deal" would also be news, it would be a data set. I hope to read about it soon.

But whatever the terms of the deal _are_, it is undeniable that they "Will Impact AI and Streaming" for better or worse, for some time to come.

qbxk• 3 years ago

i felt the same way, so i googled "sag aftra agreement" and ended up at https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/sag...

The union is so far providing some details of the agreement, more of which will likely emerge in the next few days

so it's not in the article because they haven't allowed those details to be public yet. dare i say, that's ominous to announce "we agree" but to keep the terms secret till it's inked, but we'll see i guess

scyzoryk_xyz• 3 years ago

"Even though the terms of the tentative deal reached Thursday are unclear, it’s hard to imagine the actors didn’t get at least some of the AI protections they were seeking."

So, inconclusive. The idea that your face would become 'their' property forever after you act in a minor role is absurd. Not hard to imagine how this fundamentally changes the entire ecosystem.

Actors Strike Ends with a Deal That Will Impact AI and Streaming for Decades

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