“Not This Stuff Again” (SARS-CoV-2 Update)

https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/not-stuff-again

by etiam • 3 years ago

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Society has moved on. Independent of whether it is prudent that society has moved on, we need to recognize that it has. Does this mean that every individual needs to move on? Of course not. Individuals can, if they so choose, take any and all precautionary measures. I do not believe Mr. Lowe is advocating for societal intervention, however there will be a segment of the population who takes this (and Mr. Topol's linked article) and argues for a return to mandates, closures, remote learning, etc.

What I hope doesn't occur is a return to scare tactics and presenting the worst-case-scenario as the likely scenario. The amount of trust that the public health discipline burned through during the pandemic is massive. I am not arguing whether it is _right_ that this trust has vanished, just pointing out that it has.

netsharc2• 3 years ago

Somehow the governments of the world seem to have gotten the terrible task of needing to be the (overly) protective/strict parent(s) to their population, some of which are quietly heeding them, but some other are very whiny against them. And a proper government can't just say "Well fine, you do what you want, let's see where that gets you.". And of course they also had to be overly cautious rather being overly relaxed[1], and if some things were deemed in hindsight to have been unncessary, then the brats get to whine loudly about them afterwards.

But it's hindsight, and the governments don't have the luxury of having foresight. Sure some countries might have been lucky with less restrictions and "not so bad" results, but would you want to live in a country governed by luck? I guess that's also a matter of life philosophy (being safe vs living a life with its dangers and risks).

[1] Well, I guess that's where views differs, if we reduce it to just 2 sides, the one side would rather have less government involvement, and the other side would prefer more government involvement (in the form of rules and restrictions).

SllX• 3 years ago

if we reduce it to just 2 sides

You reduce anything to just two sides and you are needlessly polarizing and handicapping your own analytical abilities. If the subject matter is actually serious and not a passing fancy, this is useless.

LastCovidWave• 3 years ago

COVID isn't over, and it never ended.

Maybe if we had done more to get it truly under control instead of just pretending and looking the other way while sickness continues to spread and deaths continue, we wouldn't still be in a never-ending March 2020 talking about something that never left "coming back".

jokoon2• 3 years ago

I hate to say this, and I don't wish death on people, but lockdown was good for the planet.

To be brutally honest, if a rogue CIA wanted to slow down CO2 emissions, that sort of virus was a good fit.

I really wish humans would organize and agree to reduce emissions, but since it's geopolitically just not really happening, that virus is a good coincidence.

If it was engineered: good. If it wasn't, that's also nature reacting the appropriate way. If it was negligence, it was a happy one.

Disclaimer: I have chronic depression, and a therapist told me that I felt happy during lockdown because average people were finally sharing and experiencing my distress. It really stuck with me.

jiggawatts• 3 years ago

The city I live in has relatively clean air, but it is a city and has some smog from cars and trucks.

During the height of the lockdowns when traffic nearly vanished as nobody went into the office, the air quality was freakishly good.

The skyscrapers across the harbour from us looked like they were right next to us. There wasn’t that usual haze and it made them look incredibly sharp and detailed, giving an illusion of proximity.

It’s crazy to me that I’ve become so accustomed to constant pollution that it has become an essential part of my depth perception! No pollution looks like an optical illusion and confuses my brain.

stopnamingnuts• 3 years ago

I think your thesis with regard to CO2 emissions is valid. Do you mind sharing whether you lost anyone close to you to COVID?

jokoon2• 3 years ago

my grand mother

Etrnl_President• 3 years ago

You are free to create or join an association to voluntarily lockdown. Do it for the planet, do it for yourself, whatever floats your goat.

black6• 3 years ago

Derek has made his living working for pharma, so he has to beat the war drum.

“Not This Stuff Again” (SARS-CoV-2 Update)

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